Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 (We are discussing Vedanta ParibhASha (VP) of Dharmaraja Adhvarindra, based on my understanding.) 11. Determinate and indeterminate perceptions Components of the mind: The mind itself, if considered as mental state with its attributes, has four components. They can be considered as four states of the mind; (a) a doubting mind, (b) a determinate mind, © egoism, and (d) memory. Because of the diversity of their functions, mind, although is one, is considered as having four components, collectively referred also as just the mind. These are designated as 1) manas, or (emotional) mind, 2) the intellect or buddhi, 3) the ego or ahankaara, and 4) memory or chitta. Since we can think of them as mental states or vRittis, the corresponding objects of the vRittis respectively are (a) doubts and emotions (b) concepts, knowledge or certitude © egoism and (d) memory or smRiti. Determinate and indeterminate perceptions: The direct perception is of two types: (a) determinate or savikalpaka and (b) indeterminate or nirvikalpaka. In the case of determinate perception, the knowledge gained is directly relatable in terms of the substantive and its attributes. The knowledge of the object perceived has determinism associated with it. Consider perception of ‘This jar’. When the knowledge occurs through perception, we have a determinate knowledge as ‘I know the jar’ – a relation between the subject and the object is immediately established. That is a determinate knowledge, according to Advaita. In the indeterminate perception, knowledge gained is not directly relatable to the subject. That is a determinism that ‘I know this’ is not discretely present. Let us take a classic example – ‘This is that Devadatta (sOyam dEvadattaH)’. In this case – we have two components – ‘this is Devadatta’ and ‘that was Devadatta’ – but combined into a unitary statement ‘this is that Devadatta’. Here ‘this’ refers to the present and here, and ‘that’ refers to the past and there. Therefore the knowledge of ‘that Devadatta’ has to come from memory. ‘This Devadatta’ is directly perceived since object is right in front available for pratyaksha pramANa, where the criteria for perceptuality are directly fulfilled. There is no problem in just perceiving this Devadatta in front since that is determinate perception. But the statement ‘this is that Devadatta’ involves an equation of this mental state corresponding to the present with the recollection of that Devadatta from the memory. The attributes of this Devadatta and that Devadatta are different since they belong to different times and space. Hence the equation gives only indeterminate knowledge. (Technically it is called bhAgatyAga lakshaNa – wherein the contradictory attributes of this Devadatta and that Devadatta are to be discarded equating only the essentials that are common to both). Similarly the Upanishadic statement ‘That Thou art’ or ‘tat tvam asi’ – The ‘Thou (tvam)’ part of the statement is directly perceivable but ‘That (tat)’ part that designates the absolute reality is not deterministic, since it is not finite. One has to discard the dissimilar attributes of both ‘That, tat’ and ‘Thou, tvam’ to arrive at the knowledge. Hence in these cases the knowledge is called indeterminate. Further clarification of this aspect is done through questions and answers. Q. In the statement ‘This is that Devadatta’- the knowledge is based on verbal comprehension and should not be considered as perception, since it is not through sense organs. A. It is not so. We have already established that for a thing to be perceived, its sense data are not the criterion. The criteria stated are consciousness associated with the subject is not different from the object when the object is present and perceivable. The object should have attributes, but not necessarily gathered by senses. In the case of internal perceptions there are no tangible objects ‘out there’, and therefore no sense-data. Yet, for internal perceptions like anger etc the attributes of the vRitti are internal and not by sense-input. In the case of ‘this Devadatta’ who is right in front and is perceivable through senses, the knowledge due to the sentence ‘this is that Devadatta’ has for its object something connected with the sense organs and the associated mental state formed has a limiting consciousness of the object, Devadatta. In addition to the perceptual knowledge of this Devadatta, the prior knowledge of ‘that Devadatta’ is also brought in for the purpose of recognition of ‘this Devadatta’. Cognition process involving ‘this Devadatta’, and recognition process involving ‘that Devadatta’ are both involved in the recognition of ‘this is that Devadatta’. The perceptual limiting consciousness of this Devadatta where all the conditions of perceptuality are met is identified with the information from memory for the purpose of recognition. It is the recognition part that makes the perception indeterminate. Here we need to recognize that the cognition and recognition play in sequence together. When I say this is a jar, looking at the jar in front, two aspects are playing a role. One is the cognition where perceptuality condition is being met and I perceive the object jar with its attributes as immediate and direct. That this is a jar and not a vase comes by the association with the knowledge in the memory. The memory involves the names and forms of a jar as well as a vase. Recognition that the cognized object is jar and not a vase comes by process of matching the attributive content of the present vRitti with the past knowledge of a jar and a vase to conclude that this is a jar and not a vase. Mind has the capacity for codifying the attributes as it sees and uses it for recognition. Suppose if I do not have the knowledge of what a jar or a vase is, and when I see a jar for the first time, there is only cognition but not recognition. Since the memory is blank, as there no knowledge of jar or vase, I have knowledge of only the cognized object. If I now learn that it is a jar, that information with its attributes is stored in the memory. Hence the next time I see the same or similar object, not only cognition but recognition also occurs immediately. Here the cognition part is direct and immediate and recognition part has to come from memory. It is a common experience that we see some people and even recognize them, but we do not remember the name of the person. That is because it is said that the brain stores the information of names, words and language in one side and figures and pictures on the other. Hence recognition of the form is immediate but name has to come from different location. It is also said that language that is pictorial (Chinese and Japanese) the names and forms are stored in the same side of the brain, and for them recognition is faster. This aspect is exploited in the early childhood education, where language is taught with pictures; and pictures speak thousand words. In the statement ‘this is that Devadatta’, the cognition part is direct and immediate since the object perceived is right in front. But the recognition part becomes a problem particularly if the attributive content of this Devadatta and that Devadatta are unrecognizably different. The indeterminacy comes from recognition process than from the cognitive process. Hence VP says cognition is perceptual. The same applies to ‘Thou art That’. The perception of ‘Thou’ is direct and immediate since the subject itself is the object for cognition. But the indeterminacy comes from the recognition process where the attributive content of ‘Thou’ is much different from the attributive content of ‘That’, where ‘That’ stands for Brahman. If one is closely familiar with ‘that Devadatta’ and showing this Devadatta in front, if the teacher says ‘this is that Devadatta’, because of the full faith in the teacher’s words, even though the attributive knowledge of this and that Devadattas are different, the student gains immediate and direct knowledge. He may wonder and say ‘ Oh! My God! What a change in Devadatta!’. In the recognition, the student is able to discard the contradictory qualifications of the present and the past Devadatta, and still equate the essence to arrive at the knowledge. With the full faith in the teacher’s words, the contradictory qualifications in this and that Devadattas are stripped out to arrive at the unique knowledge. The knowledge occurs directly and immediately as one sees this Devadatta while hearing the statement by the teacher. The same is the case with ‘tat tvam asi or That thou art’ statement. Faith in the teacher’s words (words of the scriptures expressed by a teacher who is trustworthy) as the student listens (shravaNam) forms the basis for the direct and immediate knowledge as Shankara says, ‘like the perception of fruit in the hand’ – indicating the knowledge is perceptual and immediate. In contrast to ‘this is that Devadatta’, the difficulties here, however, are compounded and more so when there is lack of complete faith in the words of the teacher. The difficulties arise, since ‘That’ has no attributes and whatever they are come from scriptures. The attributes are of indicative (lakshaNas) than cognitive. The knowledge is still considered as direct perception for two reasons. From the point of ‘Thou’ it is immediate and ever present subject; and the perceptuality criteria that consciousness of the subject is the same as the object is immediately satisfied, since here subject is the object and the identity is established. From the point of ‘That’ is also direct in the sense that the same consciousness is the content of ‘That’, since ‘that’ stands for Brahman, which is pure consciousness, which is indivisible. Hence ‘tat tvam asi’ or ‘Thou art That’ has to be direct and immediate. The reason the knowledge does not take place directly and immediately is erroneous and misconceived attributes are placed on both ‘Thou’ and ‘That’, making the knowledge of the identity seems impossible. The spiritual study and practices involve the mind in trying to get rid of these preconceived attributes assigned to both terms ‘Thou’ and ‘That’. This getting rid of preconceived notions is called ‘chitta suddhi’ or purification of the mind, where wrong notions placed on both ‘Thou’ and That’ are dropped. If one thinks that learning is difficult, the unlearning is even more difficult. All the spiritual practices are centered on unlearning process so that the equation ‘Thou art That’ is understood or realized. Although ‘That art Thou’ involves immediate and direct knowledge, realization that I am brahman does not occur for many. There are two obstacles that prevent from the seeing the truth as the truth. They are called samshaya and viparya. Samshaye means doubt that can arise if there is no faith in the word of the scriptural statement – That art Thou. To remove this, mananam or reflection on the Vedantic truth is recommended. The second obstacle is the viparya that is habitual thinking of deep rooted notions that I am this body, mind and intellect. The day to day transactions essentially endorse this notion. For that contemplation on the truth – That art Thou – is recommended. Both mananam and nidhidhyaasanam do not produce new knowledge but eliminate the obstacles that prevent the assimilation of the truth that I am. Hence fundamentally the statement ‘That art Thou’ inderminate but comes under direct perception since subject is the object of knowledge. The other philosophers view the determinate and inderminate perceptions differently and we will examine them to see clearly why advaitic position is correct. This will be done as we address additional questions raised related to the topic. Q. ‘Thou art That’ is verbal instructional statement. In any verbal communication, for knowledge to take place, one has to understand the relationship implied between the words based on the sentence structure. In Sanskrit the declensions of the words provide immediate relationships – the subject and its qualifications and the object and its qualifications and the action verb relating the two. When the relationships between the words are obvious how can the verbal communication be indeterminate? A. VP says to understand the intended meaning of the sentence, the relationships between words alone is not sufficient. There are simple sentences where direct meaning is obvious and makes sense. In that case the verbal communication with the word relationships provide the direct meaning. Take for example, ‘Rama is Dhasaratha’s son’ – The meaning is straight forward that can be obtained from word relationship. In the statements – ‘This is that Devadatta’ or ‘That Thou art’ – the direct meaning using the relationship between the words would not make sense. One has to look for the intended meaning. In some cases, if one considers just relationships between the words without understanding the proper context in which the verbal statement is made, there is every possibility to reach unintended meaning. Take for example a cricketer saying to his friend, ‘please bring me a bat’. Looking at the sentence and observing the word meaning and the relationship between the words, if his friend brings him a flying quadruped bat, he missed the intended meaning. Contextual understanding is also very important in verbal communication. In the statements ‘this is that Devadatta’ – to understand the sentence one has to have prior knowledge of that Devadatta, otherwise the intended identity of this Devadatta and that Devadatta is not understood. If one has no knowledge of that Devadatta, ‘this is that Devadatta’ would not make any sense. In relation to the sentence ‘Thou art That’ – the verbal instructional statement by a teacher to his student comes after many passages starting with preposition that ‘by knowing one thing everything else is as though known- Eka vijnAnEna sarva vijnAnam bhavati’ – particularly knowing the material cause, all the effects produced by that cause are known. This is similar to saying that by knowing gold all the ornaments of gold are ‘as though’ known, since all the ornaments are nothing but gold alone with different names and forms. In extending this application, the teacher first establishes that the material cause for the entire universe is Existence, Brahman, alone. Hence the teacher says – ‘this universe, my dear, was but existence alone in the beginning’. Thus existence is the material cause for the universe like gold for ornaments. The whole world is nothing but existence alone but with different names and forms perceived as objects. Hence if we know ‘Existence’ everything in the universe is as good as known. Hence the question arises, where is that existence for us to know. The teaching terminates with the instructional statement – that is the truth, that is real, and that is the self, and ‘Thou art That’ O’ Swetaketu. Hence the intended purport of ‘That’ in the sentence is the Brahman, the material cause for the universe which is of the nature of pure consciousness-existence. And ‘That’ Brahman you are. The intended meaning relays on the correct understanding of what ‘That’ stands for. In addition, the context of what ‘Thou’ stands for also has to be understood. If contextually ‘That’ includes the substantive of all this universe of names and forms which includes the subtle as well as gross bodies as the teacher explains, then ‘Thou’ that stands for self or Atma which appears to be different from the universe of names and forms. The sentence ‘Thou art That’ equates these two apparently dissimilar entities. Hence to make sense of this equation, one has to drop all dissimilarities or contradictory qualifications of ‘That’ and ‘Thou’ and equate the essence of both, the process known as bhAga TyAga lakshaNa – that is renouncing the unnecessary or superficial parts of both and equating only the substantial parts. Since the intended meaning of the sentence has to be understood than the direct meaning, it is called indeterminate knowledge. VP quotes a sloka from Tatva pradIpikA of Citsukhi Acharya, which states that in the sentences that convey identity relations, one has to take the substantive meanings for the words than the superficial meanings to recognize or realize the identity that is conveyed by the sentences. In the sentence ‘this is that Devadatta’ the identity of this Devadatta and that Devadatta is implied in the sentence. Based on Citsukhi’s statement, we recognize that we need to equate the substantiality of this Devadatta and that Devadatta and not the superficial attributive qualities. The identity is therefore only with respect to the essence of this and that Devadatta and not the external changing non-substantive qualities. Within the vyavahaara, the essence of both this Devadatta and that Devadatta is individual, who is jiiva and is changeless in spite of changing BMI with age. Similar identity is implied in the relation ‘Thou art That’. The substantiality of both ‘Thou’ as well as ‘That’ is ‘existence-consciousness’ and therefore the identity is only with respect to the substantives and not in terms of adjectives. The contradictory attributes prevent the recognition of the identity unless one can strip out the contradictory qualifications of ‘Thou’ and ‘That’. In the case of ‘this is that Devadatta’ the stripping process is easier since Devadatta is object detached from the subject. However in the case of ‘Thou art That’, the stripping of the qualifications are difficult due to deep-rooted habitual association of the attributes with the locus. Hence, the indeterminacy in all verbal statements involving identity comes due to difficulties in overlooking the obvious adjectives of both relata to identify the identity only in the substantives. The VishiShTAdvaitic Position: We present here some aspects of other philosophical positions related to determinate and indeterminate perceptions, for purpose of comparison. It is also interesting to view how advaitic position is viewed by vishiShTadvaitin. In tatva muktA kalApa, Vedanta Desika (13th Century) states Advaitic position as puurvapaksha, as reported by S.M. Sreenivasa Chari, in Fundamentals of VishiShTAdviata Vedanta. According to Vedanta Deshika, Advaitin’s position is that the first contact of the sense organs with the object reveals the mere existence (SAT) devoid of all attributes, while subsequent contact reveals objects with attributes. Former is indeterminate and the later is determinate perceptions. Hence according their understanding, Advaita has two stage perception the first involves the perception which is indeterminate, implying non-attributive involving the perception of mere existence and the second stage of perception involves attributive. Stating their understanding, they criticize that understanding. Vedanta Deshika says that perception of an object devoid of attributes is a psychological myth. Ramanuja also points out that apprehension of mere ‘being’ or existence without any attributes does not takes place any time and such an experience is impossible since all cognitions are in terms of ‘this is such and such’. Nothing can be perceived without attributes. Hence even indeterminate perception has to be attributive. If both determinate and indeterminate perceptions are attributive then where is the distinction between the two, asks VishiShTadvaitin? If we pose the question the other way that if both determinate and indeterminate perceptions are attributive then what is the difference between the two? Ramanuja accounts that indeterminate perception is the first time perception of an object – For example, when the child sees a cow and mother says ‘that is a cow’. He grasps the object and the attributes and store in his memory – since this is the first time a cow has been seen, he stores that attributive knowledge in his mind. When he sees another cow and third cow, he slowly recognizes the generic features of the cow that makes a cow a cow and not a horse. Hence according to vishiShTaadvaitic position, the first time perception that involves no recognition process is an indeterminate perception, while the subsequent perceptions that involves not only cognition but recognition based on memory is determinate perception. Although both cognitions are attributive in the first one there is no recognition while in the subsequent perceptions there is one. The cognition, recognition and generic attributes (jAti) of Cow in contrast to that of a horse, etc are involved in the inderminate vs determinate perception. This is the vishiShTaadvaitic position. There is nothing wrong with the vishiShTaadvaitic position in classifying the first time vs the subsequent perceptions respectively as indeterminate vs determinate, but clearly their criticism of Advaitic position is unfounded. According to the foot note provided by S.M.S Chari – ‘This is the view criticized by Ramanuja’. S.M.S. Chari says, according to later advaitin, as stated in Vedanta ParibhASha, indeterminate perception is non-relational knowledge of the perceived object and determinate perception is relational knowledge. As an example of the former, the verbal statement – ‘this is that Devadatta’ where indicated identity of substantive is to be understood discarding the differences in attributive knowledge of this and that Devadatta. S.M.S. Chari says this view is also rejected by Vedanta Deshika on the ground that memory involving prior perception (pratyabhijna) of that Devadatta is also determinate in character and therefore does not refer to identify of the essentials. Reference is given to Vedanata Deshika’s ‘Sarvartha Siddhi’. We note that Vedanta Deshika also has written SatadhUShani, hundred defects in Advaita Vedanta, and one of them is related to the inderminate perceptions. The criticism of Vedanta Deshika related to indicative meaning implied in the statement ‘this is that Devadatta’ is also not justified. The indeterminacy is not from the pratyabhijna or deterministic aspect of prior cognition of ‘that Devadatta’. The problem in the identity statement is ‘this is that Devadatta’, the identity is not exact. Each cognition by itself, i.e. ‘that Devadatta’ and ‘this Devadataa’ independently are deterministic. The problem arises in the identity of these two, implied in the statement, ‘this is that Devadatta’. The reason is that Devadatta that was cognized long time ago who was so cute and handsome looking boy is this Devadatta who is ugly looking fat individual. Hence attributes of the two do not match and therefore there is no identity in the attributive knowledge of the two Devadattas, even though the perception is determinate by itself. Hence the identity of the two is not obvious to have deterministic cognition of the identity. When the teacher says ‘this is that Devadatta’ – what is involved is a faith in the knowledge of the teacher who made that statement that it is true and to cognize the identity using bhAga tyAgam or discarding the contradictory qualifications of this and that Devadattas and unifying only the essentials. Those who knew that Devadatta and now seeing this Devadatta, and with the verbal statement that this is that Devadatta, the identity is immediate and direct. The recognition process requires rejection of contradictions in the attributive knowledge. This is normal experience and therefore criticism of advaitic position is baseless. The above criticism has lot more bearing in the analysis of the Vedic statement ‘That art Thou’ , wherein the identity involves discarding the contradictory qualifications of ‘Thou’ and ‘That’ and unifying only the essentials. Before the statement was made, Upanishad itself provides the justification for the rejection of the superimposed names and forms to see the identity by saying all objects are their cause itself in different forms- vAchArambhanam vikArO nAmadhEyam – The differences are only at the level of words or speech involving attributes and not in substantives. It is similar to the statement ‘All ornaments in essence are the same and therefore ring is necklace’ referring to gold ring and gold necklace. The attributes of the ring and the necklace are different and therefore implied identity is not at that level. Deterministically ring is different from necklace. Therefore the identity is only at the substantive level since both are nothing but gold. As Citsukhi stated that in the verbal statements involving identity relations the identity is implied only at substantial level and not at attributive level. The indeterminacy is inherent due to differences in the attributive knowledge. Therefore the criticism of Advaitic position by Vedanta Deshika is also baseless. If one closely examines the VishiShTAdvaitic doctrine involved in the analysis of ‘That art Thou’ statement, it also uses some kind of bhAga tyAga to arrive at the identity relation (although they do not say so), and there is indeterminacy involved in the understanding. They use the samAnAdhikarana between the attribute and the substantive as indicative of the implied identity. The attributes of Thou, jiiva, and those of ‘That’, parabrahma, are entirely different and distinct. Since, according to them, ‘parabrahman pervades the whole universe of movable and immovable as indweller or antaryAmin, in the implied identity statement, one has to discard all the attributes of the ‘thou’ and only equate the essence in all ‘thou’ as an indweller that pervades all ‘Thou-s’, since ‘Thou’ is part of ‘That’. According to VishiShTAdviata the indwelling part is only to be involved in the identity relation and ‘Thou’ itself constitutes an attribute of Parabrahman. Since attribute is inseparable from substantive, identity is to establish the oneness in terms of substantive. Taking the blue lotus as an example and addressing the blue – ‘Thou art Lotus’, since blue is an inseparable attribute of Lotus and depends on Lotus for its existence, referring to an attribute is then to refer to its substantive; that is what they imply as samAnAdhikaraNa. Without going into the validity of their analysis and conclusion, we note that they are adopting a procedure somewhat similar to bhAga tyAga that is discarding some parts to arrive at the implied identity relation. They are discarding the individual attributes of the jiiva in identifying with Parabrahman, since jiiva is the part of the later and depends on him, while being pervaded by it as indweller. They are in essence following Citsukhi’s guidelines while criticizing Advaitic stand. Hence their criticism of Advaitic position is unwarranted. Hari Om! Sadananda PS - I will be on travel from tomorrow returning to States and may take few days to get access to internet. There will be some delay in my responses, if they are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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