Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I read the transltion of Prajaanaam Brahma as " Conciousness is Brahman " . But one question i have is in " devaanaam aham vasavaha " " vedaanam sama vedoham " ... naam equates to among, in etc like among devas i am vasava among vedas iam sama veda then how is prajaanaam tranalating to conciousness is or is it like prajna means purified intellect (beacause i read it like that some where) and some interpretation like that. Rgds, Sreenath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 advaitin , " sreenathn007 " <sreenathn007 wrote: > > I read the transltion of Prajaanaam Brahma as " Conciousness is > Brahman " . > But one question i have is in " devaanaam aham vasavaha " " vedaanam sama > vedoham " ... naam equates to among, in etc like among devas i am > vasava among vedas iam sama veda then how is prajaanaam tranalating to > conciousness is or is it like prajna means purified intellect > (beacause i read it like that some where) and some interpretation like > that. > > Rgds, > Sreenath Dear Shri Sreenath, The word is prajnaanam and not prajnaanaam. prajnaanam means consciousness here. So the sentence means 'consciousness is Brahman'. S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 advaitin , " snsastri " <sn.sastri wrote: > > advaitin , " sreenathn007 " <sreenathn007@> > wrote: > > > > I read the transltion of Prajaanaam Brahma as " Conciousness is > > Brahman " . > > But one question i have is in " devaanaam aham vasavaha " " vedaanam > sama > > vedoham " ... naam equates to among, in etc like among devas i am > > vasava among vedas iam sama veda then how is prajaanaam > tranalating to > > conciousness is or is it like prajna means purified intellect > > (beacause i read it like that some where) and some interpretation > like > > that. > > > > Rgds, > > Sreenath > Dear Shri Sreenath, > The word is prajnaanam and not prajnaanaam. prajnaanam means > consciousness here. So the sentence means 'consciousness is > Brahman'. > S.N.Sastri > Thank you!!! It will be interesting to learn these things properly. I am looking for sanskrit etymology sites/books so that statements like this can be properly understood. prajnanam can be split as pra -jnanam i guess. what is the significance of pra because i see a lot of words with pra pra-kriti pra-sAdam pra-kritam pra-jna and so on Rgds, Sreenath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Dear Shri Sreenath, The preposition pra stands, in many words, for the word 'prakarsheNa' which means-- intensely, deeply, happily, etc. But this is not applicable to all words. You have to study the meaning of each word separately. The Mundaka up. uses the word 'pramUDha' to mean 'absolute fool' to describe people who are devoted only to the karma kANDa and do not go to the jnAna kANDa. In Tamil it could be translated as ' vadi kettina muttaal'. Regards, S.N.Sastri In advaitin , " sreenathn007 " <sreenathn007 wrote: > > Thank you!!! > It will be interesting to learn these things properly. > I am looking for sanskrit etymology sites/books so that statements > like this can be properly understood. > prajnanam can be split as pra -jnanam i guess. > what is the significance of pra because i see a lot of > words with pra > pra-kriti > pra-sAdam > pra-kritam > pra-jna and so on > > > Rgds, > Sreenath > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 On 26/03/2008, snsastri <sn.sastri wrote: > The Mundaka up. uses the word 'pramUDha' to mean 'absolute fool' to > describe people who are devoted only to the karma kANDa and do not > go to the jnAna kANDa. In Tamil it could be translated as ' vadi > kettina muttaal'. In the context of the muNDaka, this admonition makes sense, but in today's context we find two extremes - the majority are after artha alone with no care for either dharma or mokSha. Then we have the intellectuals who wax eloquent on the jnAna kANDa but end up nowhere because they never went through the thorough grind of the karma kANDa, without which they are mentally unprepared for jnAna. Studying the jnAna kANDa without chitta-shuddhi only leads to arrogance (very much applicable to me!) Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Dear Shri Ramesh, You are right. Shri Shankara gave importance to karma kANDa also. What the upanishad says is that one must not stagnate at the karma level, but go on to jnAna after having attained chitta suddhi through karma and concentration of mind through upasana. It is another matter that most of us now go after jnAna only, without having attained citta suddhi. When I referred to pramUDha I did not have all this in mind. I mentioned that word oly as an example of the use of the prefix pra (I wrongly mentioned it as a preposition through a slip). Thanks for your observations. Regards, S.N.Sastri In advaitin , " Ramesh Krishnamurthy " <rkmurthy wrote: > > In the context of the muNDaka, this admonition makes sense, but in > today's context we find two extremes - the majority are after artha > alone with no care for either dharma or mokSha. Then we have the > intellectuals who wax eloquent on the jnAna kANDa but end up nowhere > because they never went through the thorough grind of the karma kANDa, > without which they are mentally unprepared for jnAna. > > Studying the jnAna kANDa without chitta-shuddhi only leads to > arrogance (very much applicable to me!) > > Ramesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Very nicely said. His Holiness the Sage of Kanchi has written very beautifully about this topic - an excerpt " Graduating to the Upanisads without being prepared for them through the performance of Vedic rites is A GREATER OFFENCE than failure to go along the path of jnana from that of karma. After all, to repeat what I said before, on has to go through the primary and secondary stages of education before qualifying for admission to college. The man who insists on being admitted to the B. A. class without qualifying for it is not amenable to any suggestion. The one who wants to remain in the first standard learns at least something; the other type is incapable of learning anything. " The entire article which is in turn excerpted from his wonderful book " Hindu Dharma " is available at http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part5/chap32.htm? PHPSESSID=80f4c533e9dfc3d5728bb519eb6c711c OR http://tinyurl.com/2m3jls Pranams Hari OM Shyam advaitin , " Ramesh Krishnamurthy " <rkmurthy wrote: > > On 26/03/2008, snsastri <sn.sastri wrote: > > The Mundaka up. uses the word 'pramUDha' to mean 'absolute fool' to > > describe people who are devoted only to the karma kANDa and do not > > go to the jnAna kANDa. In Tamil it could be translated as ' vadi > > kettina muttaal'. > > In the context of the muNDaka, this admonition makes sense, but in > today's context we find two extremes - the majority are after artha > alone with no care for either dharma or mokSha. Then we have the > intellectuals who wax eloquent on the jnAna kANDa but end up nowhere > because they never went through the thorough grind of the karma kANDa, > without which they are mentally unprepared for jnAna. > > Studying the jnAna kANDa without chitta-shuddhi only leads to > arrogance (very much applicable to me!) > > Ramesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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