Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 namaste while i was going through the meaning of 'tatvamasi' in one of the website, there author mentioned that the meaning should be taken as per shasti tatpurusha samasa.....is it correct? also in Sri Sadanandaji's lecture on brahma suthra bhashya, it is mentioned like this for tatpurusha and bhuvreehi samasa... " Similar story is told about rameshwara linga - the linga that Rama worshiped. Rama interprets as tatpurusha that is raamasya iishwaraH, the Lord of Rama; and Shiva interprets as bahuuvriihi samaasa that is raamaH iishwaraH yasya saH, the one for whom Rama is the Lord.) " can you kindly explain me thanks Narendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 advaitin , " narendra sastry " <narendra.sastry wrote: > > namaste > > while i was going through the meaning of 'tatvamasi' in one of the website, > there author mentioned that the meaning should be taken as per shasti > tatpurusha samasa.....is it correct? > > also in Sri Sadanandaji's lecture on brahma suthra bhashya, it is mentioned > like this for tatpurusha and bhuvreehi samasa... > > " Similar story is told about rameshwara linga - the > linga that Rama worshiped. Rama interprets as tatpurusha that is > raamasya iishwaraH, the Lord of Rama; and Shiva interprets as > bahuuvriihi samaasa that is raamaH iishwaraH yasya saH, the one for > whom Rama is the Lord.) " > > can you kindly explain me > thanks > Narendra Dear Shri Narendra Sastry, The explanation of Tat tvam asi which you are referring to is according to visishTAdvaita. They take tattvam as one compound word and split it up as a tatpurusha samAsa as-- tasya tvam, tattvam.This id similar to-- tasya putraH, tatputraH--his son. This means that you, the jiva, belong to Him (God), or you are a part of Him. This is what they call sesha seshi bhAva-- the relationship of part and whole. According to them all jIvas and the insentient world are the body of brahman who is only saguNa(and not nirguNa). Just as the jivAtmA is the AtmA of the body, paramAtmA is the AtmA of all the jivAtmAs. Please verify whether the website you are referring to is that of visishTAdvaita. According to advaita, Tat and tvam are identical--jIva is brahman itself. Re- your second question, the word RAmanAtha can be split up in three ways:-- 1. RAmasya nAthaH RAmanAthah- He who is the Lord of Rama. This is Shiva. This is tatpurusha samAsa.Here Rama says that Shiva is his Lord. 2. RAmaH nAthaH yasya sah- He for whom RAma is the Lord. This is also Shiva, but here Shiva says that RAma is his Lord. This is bahuvrIhi samAsa. 3. Ramah ca asau nAthaH ca- This means --one who is Rama as well as the Lord. This refers to Rama. This is known as karmadhAraya samAsa. Best wishes, S.N.Sastri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 namaste sastri gAru thanks for the explanation, yes you were right, soon after that I realized that the website which i was referring to was ISKCON one.... why they consider tatvam as one sigle word and where as we as tat tvam as two separate words? also when i was watching a movie on swamy raghavendra, there it seems they are telling 'atatvam' asi ? what is the reason behind it? is there any yukthi or lakshana or pramANa behind that to choose the word appropriately? I felt it bit confusing, because, tatvamasi is we consider as one of the mahavakhya, so I was totally confused to see about the other two interpretation...is it person's own choice to choose the best meaning to meet their philosophical needs? if my question is beyond the scope of advaithic learning, I kindly ask apologies with the esteemed moderators and group members... thanks Narendra On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM, snsastri <sn.sastri wrote: > advaitin <advaitin%40>, " narendra > sastry " > > Dear Shri Narendra Sastry, > The explanation of Tat tvam asi which you are referring to is > according to visishTAdvaita. They take tattvam as one compound word > and split it up as a tatpurusha samAsa as-- tasya tvam, tattvam.This > id similar to-- tasya putraH, tatputraH--his son. This means that > you, the jiva, belong to Him (God), or you are a part of Him. This > is what they call sesha seshi bhAva-- the relationship of part and > whole. According to them all jIvas and the insentient world are the > body of brahman who is only saguNa(and not nirguNa). Just as the > jivAtmA is the AtmA of the body, paramAtmA is the AtmA of all the > jivAtmAs. Please verify whether the website you are referring to is > that of visishTAdvaita. > According to advaita, Tat and tvam are identical--jIva is brahman > itself. > R > S.N.Sastri > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 advaitin , " narendra sastry " <narendra.sastry wrote: > >why they consider tatvam as one sigle word and where as we as tat tvam as > two separate words? also when i was watching a movie on swamy raghavendra, > there it seems they are telling 'atatvam' asi ? > > what is the reason behind it? is there any yukthi or lakshana or pramANa > behind that to choose the word appropriately? > > I felt it bit confusing, because, tatvamasi is we consider as one of the > mahavakhya, so I was totally confused to see about the other two > interpretation...is it person's own choice to choose the best meaning to > meet their philosophical needs? > > if my question is beyond the scope of advaithic learning, I kindly ask > apologies with the esteemed moderators and group members... > > thanks > Narendra > > Not only the mahavakyas, but also many of the upanishadic statements, the gItA and the brahmasutras have been interpreted differently by the three Acharyas according to their philosophical views. It is advisable for you to confine yourself to advaitic websites until you get a thorough grounding in advaita. If you go to other websites you are likely to get confused. Regards, S.N.Sastri > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Sure I will Sastri ji, I will try to read them only when I feel I know little about advaitha...till then I will confine my reading only for advaitic interpretation thanks heaps On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:38 PM, snsastri <sn.sastri wrote: > - > > Not only the mahavakyas, but also many of the upanishadic > statements, the gItA and the brahmasutras have been interpreted > differently by the three Acharyas according to their philosophical > views. > It is advisable for you to confine yourself to advaitic websites > until you get a thorough grounding in advaita. If you go to other > websites you are likely to get confused. > Regards, > S.N.Sastri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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