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Hello all,

 

I have been thinking about this " free will " idea and how it relates to what I

know, not much at this point but I want to give you my idea of how i have

assimilated this information you have all so kindly shared. As far as I have

learned the gunas are acting, not on the self but on Prakrti, matter, mind

senses, etc. So, as long as I am disconnected from the Self this Prakrti rules

my existence. As I get closer to realization i become more in control of my

Prakrti, thus this Prakrti loses it's free will and I just allow it to happen as

now i am using the self to guide me.

 

Any and all comments are certainly welcome and invited.

 

John Miller

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Then there is the realization of Self...that you are That and there

is no other. As there is no others...what can be done and to

what/whom? Without separation (doer, done, doing) there is no doer.

With no doer, were does free will come in?

 

Namaste,

 

~ Eric Putkonen

http://www.awaken2life.org

 

advaitin , John Miller <johnnyzmilleriii

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> Hello all,

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> I have been thinking about this " free will " idea and how it relates

to what I know, not much at this point but I want to give you my idea

of how i have assimilated this information you have all so kindly

shared. As far as I have learned the gunas are acting, not on the

self but on Prakrti, matter, mind senses, etc. So, as long as I am

disconnected from the Self this Prakrti rules my existence. As I get

closer to realization i become more in control of my Prakrti, thus

this Prakrti loses it's free will and I just allow it to happen as

now i am using the self to guide me.

>

> Any and all comments are certainly welcome and invited.

>

> John Miller

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--- Eric Putkonen <eputkonen wrote:

 

> Then there is the realization of Self...that you are That and there

> is no other. As there is no others...what can be done and to

> what/whom? Without separation (doer, done, doing) there is no doer.

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> With no doer, were does free will come in?

 

All true. Therefore the discussions of free will, including the current

one, as well as prArabda are valid only in vyavahaara. Once there is

realization of there is no doer, where is doer for the discussion too!

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

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