Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Dear Advaitin Group members, I am a new member of your group. I have lost my ID [EGO?] and also password, so I am using the Rediffmail ID for sending my message. I have been reading a few books on Advaita and also about Sri Ramana Maharishi and Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj and their teachings. I have a couple of basic queries: 1] We understand that there is only consciousness and nothing else and we and our worlds are only illusions. Why should this illusion occur to the off shoot of consciousness i.e. the mind? In other words why should the mind arise at all? Is it a case of the SELF playing tricks? 2] What would be stage of the Jnani who has merged with the SELF? How does he carry on his affairs in this world? I guess this is purely a hypothetical case and should cross the bridge if and when we come to it. I hope I can elicit an answer from the members. Regards, P Raghunath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'm a newbie to the group too. Just decided I'll take a shot at answering this. > 1] We understand that there is only consciousness and nothing else and we and our worlds are only illusions. Why should this illusion occur to the off shoot of consciousness i.e. the mind? In other words why should the mind arise at all? Is it a case of the SELF playing tricks? The world is an illusion only from the viewpoint of the absolute. As long as I consider myself separate from the world, the world is a reality which is as real as I am. My mind is a part of that world, just like my body and all other objects I see around me. My mind is a tool, the best that I have, to help me bridge this separation. > 2] What would be stage of the Jnani who has merged with the SELF? How does he carry on his affairs in this world? I guess this is purely a hypothetical case and should cross the bridge if and when we come to it. This again depends one who's viewpoint is taken. From the viewpoint of the Jnani, he is one with the world and there are no 'affairs to carry on'. From the viewpoint of the others, he continues to carry on his affairs in the world, like everyone else, but in a far better way, always joyful - always a source of joy. They are living markers of the path, which all of us can easily see and follow. Hari OM Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Dear Sanjay, Tks finally for someone who has replied. My question is very basic Just consider this: If only consciousness were all that is , why should this discussion take place, Why should the mind rise at all? I think there should be a timeless, space less, lifeless or whatever the opposite term for lifeless... something beyond description, be present instead of the present state. For simplicity sake imagine consciousness as sky without stars, clouds, without colour without any decriptive terms. Can you imagine only serenity in such a scene? Now tell me from where does the individual mind spring from? Why should there be two points of view? Raghunath On Sat, 10 May 2008 Sanjay Varma wrote : >I'm a newbie to the group too. Just decided I'll take a shot at answering this. > > > 1] We understand that there is only consciousness and nothing else and we and our worlds are only illusions. Why should this illusion occur to the off shoot of consciousness i.e. the mind? In other words why should the mind arise at all? Is it a case of the SELF playing tricks? > >The world is an illusion only from the viewpoint of the absolute. >As long as I consider myself separate from the world, the world is a >reality which is as real as I am. >My mind is a part of that world, just like my body and all other >objects I see around me. >My mind is a tool, the best that I have, to help me bridge this separation. > > > 2] What would be stage of the Jnani who has merged with the SELF? How does he carry on his affairs in this world? I guess this is purely a hypothetical case and should cross the bridge if and when we come to it. > >This again depends one who's viewpoint is taken. > From the viewpoint of the Jnani, he is one with the world and there >are no 'affairs to carry on'. > From the viewpoint of the others, he continues to carry on his affairs >in the world, like everyone else, but in a far better way, always >joyful - always a source of joy. They are living markers of the path, >which all of us can easily see and follow. > >Hari OM > >Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Shree Raghunath - There were series of articles on the analysis of the mind that I wrote few months ago. You can pull them out from archives. Shree Dennis Waite is also subscribing those in amicable form in his website. Hari Om! Sadananda --- On Sat, 5/17/08, RAGHUNATH PARTHASARATHY <san_vind wrote: Tks finally for someone who has replied. My question is very basic ? Now tell me from where does the individual mind spring from? Why should there be two points of view? Raghunath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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