Adhyaropa and Apavada

[Guest guest]

Dear Group Members,

 

Good morning to all. In the Vedantic texts like

" Vedanta Sara " of Sadananda Yogindra, the treatise is

through Adhyaropa and Apavada method. During

adhyaropa, the creation of this world is explained.

But, what is the exact position of the man in this

creation. How or in which state a man is existing as

the manifestation of the gross elements?

 

Please explain in detail.

With love,

Sri.

[Guest guest]

Shree Sri - praNAms

 

Not sure if I understand your question correctly - but here is the position of

man in the creation starting from Brahman.

 

1. From Brahman the first five elements come one leading to the next starting

from subtlest, space to grossest, earth.  These are in subtle forms.

They are the contributing factors for the subtle body.

 

2. Then they combine - what is known as pancikaraNam - and the combination leads

to grossification. This gross matter forms the material for the creation of 14

lokas and the gross bodies of all jiivas in the 14 lokas.  The subtle elements

enter the gross to form jiivas since Brahman essentially expresses more vividly

in the subtle elements that start as buddhi - next mind etc. 

 

3. The gross and the subtle mater combinations in each being (including human)

is determined by the vaasana (prarabda) that are ready to germinate and express

to experience or exhaust their karma. 

 

4. The position of man is - the consciousness expressing in the subtle elements

(as though it is reflected in the subtle body) and through the subtle body to

the gross body - is the man. Not knowing that he is actually Brahman (conscious

entity) but expressing here through subtle and gross bodies, identifies with it

as 'I am this' - the notion of jiiva begins using the bodies to exhaust the

karmas that are brought in.  In the process of living, he acquires new ones

which are called aagaami and unexhausted ones are deposited back to total

account, which forms the cause for the next life. Hence birth-death cycle

continues until he realizes that he is not subtle or gross bodies but only an

enlivening agent - that negation of 'I am not this' is apavaada. Taking that I

am this is adhyaaropa and negating that I am not this is apavaada. If that is

understood as a fact, then I realize my true nature that I am Brahman that never

takes any birth at any time. With

that understanding the man goes or gone beyond the adhyaaropa - apavaada too.

 

 

This is the position of man, as I understand.

 

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Sriram Narayanan <br_sriram wrote:

 

Good morning to all. In the Vedantic texts like

" Vedanta Sara " of Sadananda Yogindra, the treatise is

through Adhyaropa and Apavada method. During

adhyaropa, the creation of this world is explained.

But, what is the exact position of the man in this

creation. How or in which state a man is existing as

the manifestation of the gross elements?