Request for Assistance

[Guest guest]

Dear friends in the Sangha,

In my role as a professor, I often write papers and

publish them in academic journals and present them at academic conferences. In

2005, I presented a paper on Krishna as a transformational servant leader (in the

context of Mahabharata and Bhgagavad Gita) at the Academy of Management. I was

able to get feedback from many of you before I put it up on my website.

Next week, August 10, 2008, I am planning to present

on the Bhagavad Gita again at the Academy of Management meetings in California,

Anaheim. The Academy of Management consists of managers, management

professors, and management Ph.D. students. I need your assistance to improve my

presentation, if you have the time. I am looking for examples from your

personal experiences of action, decision making, and how it lead to either success

and/or failure and how you handled it in the context of karma yoga as explained

in the Bhagavad Gita.

The fundamental theme of my talk will be that the

essential message of the Bhagavad Gita, unlike a modern management book or a

manual, is to ensure not just worldly success but true self-actualization that leads

to benefit of society as well as personal success of the highest level. I will

be giving examples of Indian executives or professionals (or anyone in a

decision making position in any field) who are influenced by Bhagavad Gita’s

philosophy of doing karma without being attached to fruits of actions. Of

course, I am not limiting myself to Indian nationals and everyone is welcome to

contribute.

Here is an example of what I am trying to do.

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The former Managing Director of Mckinsey, Rajat Gupta, is a celebrated

management strategist currently sits on the boards of Goldman Sachs,

Procter & Gamble, AMR Corporation and Genpact Ltd, besides being a special

adviser on management reforms to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.

He is also part of select group world's most admired board of directors.

 

Here

are some excerpts from an interview with Rajat Gupta in 2001 in which he

reveals the influence of Gita on his thinking.

 

Interview

by Jitendara V. Singh-Source is Academy of Managemenl Executive, 2001,

Vol. 15, No, 2

 

 

Rajat

Gupta: But I very much believe in the philosophical concept of karma yogi. You

just do what you think is the right thing, don't really get attached to the

fruits thereof, or don't worry about the results. Do it with the right

intentions, do the best you can, and the results will be whatever they will be.

It's a fundamentally, deeply held, philosophical thought.

 

Rajat

Gupta: " Well I did everything in my power to do, I did the best I could, I

had always the right intentions, and the outcome was not what it was. Well, so

be it! Try it another day. " It happens all the time; I serve clients in

the best way I can. Great client projects, but nothing happens afterward, no

relationship, no follow-on work. Well I did everything I could, but it didn't

happen. I think if we judge ourselves by results too much, we're always out of

balance. Either we are far happier than we should be, or far sadder. Sometimes

the results are not because of what you did, but because of circumstances.

Sometimes the results are in spite of the best you did.

 

Jitendara Singh: You were quoting, of course, Rajat, from the ancient

Hindu text, the Bhagavad-Gita, and you're talking about the concept of nishkama

karma, if I remember correctly. :

Rajat

Gupta: Absolutely. You know the most famous sloka that is:

 

Karmanye

vaditaras fe

ma

phaleshu kadachana

ma

karma-phala-hetur bhur

ma te

sango 'stva karmani'

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The above is a clear example of a top manager deeply

influenced by the idea of nishkama karma. I am looking for examples like that

from others that I can include in my paper.

The verses of interest I will be commenting on at

the Academy of Management presentation are given below (translation by Ramanand

Prasad).

You have Adhikaara over your respective duty only, but no control or claim

over the results. The fruits of work should not be your motive. You should

never be inactive. (2.47) (The word Adhikaara means ability and privilege,

prerogative, jurisdiction, discretion, right, preference, choice, rightful

claim, authority, control.)

Do your duty to the best of your ability, O Arjuna, with your mind attached

to the Lord, abandoning (worry and) attachment to the results, and remaining

calm in both success and failure. The equanimity of mind is called Karma-yoga.

(2.48)

Work done with selfish motives is inferior by far to the selfless service or

Karma-yoga. Therefore be a Karma-yogi, O Arjuna. Those who seek (to enjoy) the

fruits of their work are verily unhappy (because one has no control over the

results). (2.49)

As the ignorant work, O Arjuna, with attachment (to the fruits of work), so

the wise should work without attachment, for the welfare of the society. (3.25)

The wise should not unsettle the mind of the ignorant who is attached to the

fruits of work, but the enlightened one should inspire others by performing all

works efficiently without attachment. (See also 3.29) (3.26)

The true nature of action is very difficult to

understand. Therefore, one should know the nature of attached action, the

nature of detached action, and also the nature of forbidden action. (4.17)

Attached action is selfish work that produces Karmic

bondage, detached action is unselfish work or Seva that leads to nirvana, and

forbidden action is harmful to society. The one who sees inaction in action,

and action in inaction, is a wise person. Such a person is a yogi and has

accomplished everything. (See also 3.05, 3.27, 5.08 and 13.29) (4.18).

 

Any examples from your personal experiences are most

welcome. I do not have to use your actual name in the paper, if you do not wish

that. Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to all

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Rajat,

I strongly believe in the Bhagavat Gita's clear articluation of Karma Yogi and the sloka "You have the right or authority to do an action but not to the fruits of that action".

Four of us started a Temple organization in the late 1970s in a Religious Trust form. Technically the 4 of us could have remained as life trustees by law. But we expanded that to 17 in the mid 80s who also could have decided to stay for life time. The new people became trustees on the basis of what service they did to the Temple and NOT because of any donation. In fact many of them were of very modest means. And after the Temple was consecrated successfully in 1991/92 all of us willingly gave up the Trusteeship and transitioned over a 7 year period to a totally new trustees with 1/6 th of them rotating out every year till now. In many Temple organizations hanging on to the trusteeship or Chairmanship has lead to bitter fights. The very concept of building a Temple should lead to Nishkamya Karma attitude or atleast let go of the Ego and doership but is not being understood. This Temple is Sri Siva Vishnu

Temple, a preemier Temple, in Lanham Maryland.

Sincerely,

Siva Subramanian

Ex Chairman of Trustees

Sri Siva Vishnu Temple

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[Guest guest]

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Siva Subramanian <doc4baby wrote:

 

But we expanded that to 17 in the mid 80s who also could have decided to stay

for life time. The new people became trustees on the basis of what service they

did to the Temple and NOT because of any donation.

.......

The very concept of building a Temple should lead to Nishkamya Karma attitude

or atleast let go of the Ego and doership but is not being understood. This

Temple is Sri Siva Vishnu Temple, a preemier Temple, in Lanham Maryland.

Sincerely,

Siva Subramanian

 

 

PraNams

 

I endorse what Shree Siva Subramanian wrote - I was one of the 17 trustess that

Siva mentioned and also involved with him in developing by-laws for the temple,

after studying the by-laws of other temples and removing any of their short

falls. The retired trusts form an advaisory group that are readily available

for the temple management to tap in case of need. The temple is functioning

beautifully without any problem since its inception.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

[Guest guest]

I must say thank you. I visit that temple every month when Sadhvi-ji Chaitanya gives Her lectures (currently on Vivekachudamani). I am very impressed with the Temple itself, the grounds, the people, the priests, the food, everything . It is my first (and only) exposure to a Hindu Temple and even as one of the few Westerners that I see there, I am always made to feel welcome. It always puts me in a reverential mood.Harih OMEdadvaitin From: kuntimaddisadaDate: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:12:46 -0700 Re: Request for Assistance

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Siva Subramanian <doc4baby > wrote:

 

But we expanded that to 17 in the mid 80s who also could have decided to stay for life time. The new people became trustees on the basis of what service they did to the Temple and NOT because of any donation.

.......

The very concept of building a Temple should lead to Nishkamya Karma attitude or atleast let go of the Ego and doership but is not being understood. This Temple is Sri Siva Vishnu Temple, a preemier Temple, in Lanham Maryland.

Sincerely,

Siva Subramanian

 

PraNams

 

I endorse what Shree Siva Subramanian wrote - I was one of the 17 trustess that Siva mentioned and also involved with him in developing by-laws for the temple, after studying the by-laws of other temples and removing any of their short falls. The retired trusts form an advaisory group that are readily available for the temple management to tap in case of need. The temple is functioning beautifully without any problem since its inception.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Siva-ji and Sada-ji:

 

Thank you for sharing that. That is an excellent example of Nishkamya Karma.

Your message on temple building in Washington and maintenance is timely. I

am aware of temple projects which get mired into politics and issues such as

who should be on the board of trustees can become very delicate.

 

It seems like your group in Washington was one with a lot of spiritual

maturity and excellent human relations skills. It makes me want to be in

Washington and be part of your group!

 

Siva-ji and Sada-ji, if it is possible, perhaps you can publish the temple

bylaws on the web. I know of temple projects, which are in their inception

stage, that may immensely benefit from the wisdom that your group showed in

Washington.

 

Again, thank you for sharing that uplifting story. It is always good to hear

of situations where people worked for the common good and put the teaching

into practice. I will include this example in my paper.

 

I would ask others to share similar examples, either on the list or with me

privately. Thank you to those who have contacted me privately on this as

well.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

advaitin [advaitin ] On Behalf

Of kuntimaddi sadananda

Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:13 PM

advaitin

Re: Request for Assistance

 

 

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Siva Subramanian <doc4baby wrote:

 

But we expanded that to 17 in the mid 80s who also could have decided to

stay for life time. The new people became trustees on the basis of what

service they did to the Temple and NOT because of any donation.

.......

The very concept of building a Temple should lead to Nishkamya Karma

attitude or atleast let go of the Ego and doership but is not being

understood. This Temple is Sri Siva Vishnu Temple, a preemier Temple, in

Lanham Maryland.

Sincerely,

Siva Subramanian

 

 

PraNams

 

I endorse what Shree Siva Subramanian wrote - I was one of the 17 trustess

that Siva mentioned and also involved with him in developing by-laws for the

temple, after studying the by-laws of other temples and removing any of

their short falls. The retired trusts form an advaisory group that are

readily available for the temple management to tap in case of need. The

temple is functioning beautifully without any problem since its inception.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

 

 

 

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