Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 HARI AUM The different levels of consciounesses are experiences. Furthering the levels of consciouness is an activity done thru meditation. Silence is the atmosphere and intellectualisation is futile and frustrating. In this journey the day is night and vice versa. Talking is an activity at one level and 'Talking through' to a higher level has very little chance. These pursuits may make sense if they are with 'realised' souls but they seldom hang around in the precincts of internet. One got to seek them and that too among the multitudes of similar looking ascetics in the higher peaks of Himalayas. Once the student is ready 'Guru' will appear. But then, nothing shall stop the genuine seeker in his attempts. The RigVeda 1.89.1 says: " Aa no bhadraah kratavo yantu vishvatah " (Let noble thoughts come to us from everywhere) Regards Balagopal NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 --- On Wed, 8/13/08, balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: .. One got to seek them and that too among the multitudes of similar looking ascetics in the higher peaks of Himalayas. Once the student is ready 'Guru' will appear. ---------- Shree Balagopal - PraNAms I am reminded of Shankara's sloka yogaratovA bhogaratovA sangaratovA sanghavihiinaH| yadat brahmani ramate chettam nandati nadati nandatyeva|| One may be a yogi (sitting and contemplating) or one may be looking like bhogi (working in downtown), one may be among the people and one may be in solitude somewhere in Himalayas - it is not where he is and what he does - but where his mind is - he who revels in Brahman all the time enjoying himself in the eternal knowledge, is a realized soul - aatmanyeva aatmanaa tuShTaH. Yes you are right if the mind is ready one will discover his guru who is realized not necessarily in Himalayas but sometimes whereever the sadhak is. As the statement goes - the flower need not go in search of a bee, it will come when the flower is ready. A mature student will discover his guru as the mind progresses in its purification - that is the law. --------------- balagopal: But then, nothing shall stop the genuine seeker in his attempts. Sadananda: Provided one is very careful, vigilent and not the mind go hither and thither. kshurasya dhaara ..durgam pathanaat, kavayo vadanti - it is like razor-edge path and one has to be extremely vigilent. ---------------- The RigVeda 1.89.1 says: " Aa no bhadraah kratavo yantu vishvatah " (Let noble thoughts come to us from everywhere) --------- Yes - from every where and all the time so that there is no time for other thoughts - hence Krishna says think of me without any other thought. Hari Om! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 advaitin , " anupam srivatsav " <anupam.srivatsav wrote: > > Dear Prof. Sri VK ji, > > Thanks a lot for the reply. I have gone through the lines between 211 > and 252. There in line 244, the entry goes like this: > > " 244. G: Scriptures say: The jIva which was one with the BMI, > now goes back to the Self, during the sleep of the BMI. " > > My question is: When the Jiva goes back to the Self, it realizes its > identity with Brahman. But, in Sushupti, it does not go back to the > Self, I suppose. It goes back only to the Ishwara, where unspecified > ajnana is still present, whereas in the Self, no such ajnana is > present. > > Can you please clarify this more? Namaste Anupam-ji There are probably more than one scriptural support for this. One of them is below: Shankara Bhashya to Br. U. IV – 3 – 23: (Swami Madhavananda's translation) (Last paragraph) `There is not that second thing, the object, separate from it which it can see, or perceive. Those things that caused the particular visions (of the waking ande dream states), viz., the mind (with the self behind it), the eyes and forms, were all presented by ig norance as something different from the self. They are now unified in the state of profound sleep, as the individual self has been (*tad-etasmin-kAle ekI-bhUtaM. AtmanaH pareNa parishhvangAt*) embraced by the Supreme Self. Only when the self is under limitation, do the organs stand as something different to help it to particular experience.. But it is now embraced by its own Supreme Self which is Pure Intelligence and the Self of all, as a man is by hisbeloved wife. (*ayaM tu svena sarvAtmanA samparishhvaktaH svena pareNa prAjnena AtmanA priyayA iva purushhaH*). Also you may refer to Shankara's commentary of the 5th mantra of Mandukyopanishad: *sushhupta-sthAna ekIbhUtaH prajnAna-ghana eva …..*. Also you may read Sadaji's post #37355. PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dear Sri Prof ji, Namaste. Thanks for the pointers. I am trying to see the Br. Up. to understand the point clearly. I just started learning Vedanta (started with Vedanta Sara and then now doing Katha ). So, there are many misconceptions. Thanks for bearing with me and giving me the suggestions. > Shankara Bhashya to Br. U. IV – 3 – 23: (Swami Madhavananda's > translation) Sri Sadananda ji also has done marvelous works in writing some good articles. I am trying to look at the specific article now. > Also you may read Sadaji's post #37355. Hats off to the great scholars and all those who tried to help me in this regard. With regards, Anupam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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