All that glisters is not gold

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Madathil-ji wrote:

Namaste Advaitins,

 

Namaste Bhaskar-ji and Michael-ji.

 

In the Adhyasa Bhashya link quoted in my post 41373, Shri Subhanu

Saxena has referred to Sureshwara's vartika. It doesn't say which

vartika!

 

Perhaps, Bhaskar-ji might recognize the relevant verse below quoted

by him and be able to locate the correct reference:

 

Atah pramANato'shakyA'vidyA'syeti vIxitum

KIdrshI vA kuto vAsAvanubhUtyekarUpatah

Sambandha Vartika 184

 

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Namaste Madathi-ji and Bhaskar-ji,

Thanks for that

clarification. I assumed that quote from Sureshwara was a comment on

the adhyasa bhasya. I found it intriguing in that it seemed to support

the Modest Interpretation i.e. how the object which is inert comes to be

within the consciousness of the subject. I find that the ancient

commentaries retain more of the original intent of the text. Somehow

the moderns have become influenced by ideas from psychology and

science. I must have a good search for Sureshwara's work in translation.

 

Best Wishes,

Michael

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--- On Mon, 8/25/08, ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva wrote:

 

Michael - PraNAms

 

Yes you are absolutely right. One cannot go by glistering aspect to determine

the substantive whether it is gold or gold plated and look-alike gold.

 

I know you do not agree with my interpretation. That is good. No problem with

that.

 

But I would also like you to keep an open mind - if mind can grasp the

substantive then one can immediately determine if the glistering object is gold

or not and there cannot be any possibility for error to take the glistering

object as gold if it is not gold. I maintain because the mind cannot get

substantive knowledge through just by perception, there is a possibility of

errors; ropes as snakes and snakes as ropes and all yellowish glistering things

as gold and all silvery-shining things including nacre as silver. Nayaayika's

last objection posted addresses exactly that.

 

If the mind grasps the substantives as vishiShTaadvaita and dvaita theories

propose, then they have to use other khyaati vaadas to explain error and not

adhyaasa.

 

Anyway keep the subject open may be we will together discover the truth.

 

 

PraNAms again

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda