Swamy Dayananda on Bhagavan Ramana's realization!!??

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I have come across this one before. The author clearly misunderstands

what Swami Dayananda Saraswati (SDS) is saying.

 

And none of the Shankaracharya-s has " questioned " Ramana Maharshi's

realization. Note that it was the Kanchi Paramacharya who asked Paul

Brunton to meet Ramana. The Sringeri Acharya at the beginning of the

20th century was Sacchidananda Sivabhinava Nrsimha Bharati, and he too

held Ramana in high regard. The Puri acharya Sri Bharati Krishna

Tirtha visited Ramanashramam and sat on the floor like everyone else,

even though Ramana had arranged for a raised seat for the acharya to

sit.

 

So please don't pay any attention to people with half baked knowledge

saying silly things about our traditions.

 

Ramesh

 

2008/11/11 Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr:

> praNAms

> Hare Krishna

>

> Yesterday I got the below link from one of my cybernet satsanghi-s, in which

> he says Sri Dayananda has made some comments on the realization of Sri

> Bhagavan Ramana maharshi & also emphasizes the importance of scriptural

> study in the path of self realization...Since I donot have the internet

> access, I dont know whether it is an approved site of Arsha Vidya gurukulam

> & I am also not able to read the contents of this link to find the

> credibility of sender's claims..

>

> Would someone (preferably Sri Dayananda Saraswati's disciples) throw more

> light on this link please...Thanks in advance.

>

> http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j14/dayananda.asp?page=1

>

> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

> bhaskar

 

--

santoShaH paramo lAbhaH satsa~NgaH paramA gatiH I

vicAraH paramaM j~nAnaM shamo hi paramaM sukham II

- yoga vAsiShTha

[Guest guest]

Namaste Bhaskarji.

 

The magazine " Enlightennext " has nothing to do with Arsha Vidya

Gurukulam. It is owned by Mr. Andrew Cohen, who claims to be

enlightened. He is supposed to be a neo. The interview with Swamiji

is very old and was published when the mag used to be known as " What

Is Englightenment? " .

 

I once had the good fortune of raising some points of the interview

directly with Swamiji when he visited our place. He didn't say

anything to suggest that there is any mistake in what was published

by Mr. Cohen.

 

I can send you the interview off-List if you are interested.

 

Best regards.

 

Madathil Nair

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advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr wrote:

>

>

> Yesterday I got the below link from one of my cybernet satsanghi-s,

in

> which he says Sri Dayananda has made some comments on the

realization of

> Sri Bhagavan Ramana maharshi & also emphasizes the importance of

scriptural

> study in the path of self realization...Since I donot have the

internet

> access, I dont know whether it is an approved site of Arsha Vidya

gurukulam

> & I am also not able to read the contents of this link to find the

> credibility of sender's claims..

>

> Would someone (preferably Sri Dayananda Saraswati's disciples)

throw more

> light on this link please...Thanks in advance.

>

> http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j14/dayananda.asp?page=1

[Guest guest]

praNAms Sri Madathil Nair prabhuji

Hare Krishna

I can send you the interview off-List if you are interested.

> Thanks for your help...I've the complete text with me already...Off the list, Sri Mouna prabhuji has already sent the complete dialogues just few minutes back..

I once had the good fortune of raising some points of the interview directly with Swamiji when he visited our place. He didn't say anything to suggest that there is any mistake in what was published by Mr. Cohen.

> This is quite interesting is it not?? if Mr. Cohen is misquoting Swamiji, swamiji would have definitely said so is it not?? Anyway, let me go through that interview in detail.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

[Guest guest]

Pranams Bhaskarji,I have personally heard Swamiji discuss the realization of Sri Ramana and others. I believe the author in the article has misunderstood Swamiji's statements. My understanding (which of course could be just as much of a mis-understanding!) from hearing Swamiji discuss this topic is this:From what I heard Him say, Swamiji does not doubt the realization of Sri Ramana. Also, Swamiji does in fact state that the only way to realization is through the means and methods detailed in the Vedic texts and therefore they must be studied. However, when specifically asked about people that have realized without such formal study, his answer was that it only appears to us that no study has occurred. He stated that the study need not have come from this lifetime, and could have easily been done in another lifetime to such a degree that they were born with the ability to receive such grace as to realize without any study in this lifetime.I am reminded of the day I was listening to music with my wife. We were listening to a favorite musician of ours (Dave Matthews) and I made the comment that I did not see how it was possible for one person to be so talented - that his music came from such a deep place within that he must have a direct line to the Divine. My wife in her infinite wisdom looked at me and said, "Certainly you do not think this is the first lifetime he has played music, do you? Talent like that is developed over many lifetimes."Harih OMEdadvaitin From: bhaskar.yrDate: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:15:11 +0530 Swamy Dayananda on Bhagavan Ramana's realization!!??

 

 

 

praNAms

Hare Krishna

 

Yesterday I got the below link from one of my cybernet satsanghi-s, in which he says Sri Dayananda has made some comments on the realization of Sri Bhagavan Ramana maharshi & also emphasizes the importance of scriptural study in the path of self realization...Since I donot have the internet access, I dont know whether it is an approved site of Arsha Vidya gurukulam & I am also not able to read the contents of this link to find the credibility of sender's claims..

 

Would someone (preferably Sri Dayananda Saraswati's disciples) throw more light on this link please...Thanks in advance.

 

http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j14/dayananda.asp?page=1

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

 

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praNAms Advaitins,

 

Shri Adi Shankara praises Ganapathi in one of his stotras, saying that He is

the best among all dieties. In another, he praises to Shiva is the best. In

another, he praises the Divine mother saying that She is the best among all.

To the conditioned minds, these lines when textually taken, would seem

mutually contradictory.

 

It would not be so. It is an ancient tradition, called nindA nyAya, in

which the praise is done by comparing, not for the sake of belittling

others, but for the sake of sake of eulogizing.

 

I would think that the article is another example of ninda-nyAya, because it

fits in the occam razor (simplest and cleanest) argument. Swami-ji, who

wants to show the importance of shAstra pramANa, using the vEdAnta

shAstra as a proof of ultimate realization, may have used the words

as in the above article.

 

My opinion, open to correction.

praNAms to all Advaita Masters,

Ramakrishna

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Namaste,

 

What is a " neo " ?

 

Soul

 

 

 

advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair "

<madathilnair wrote:

> The magazine " Enlightennext " has nothing to do with Arsha Vidya

> Gurukulam. It is owned by Mr. Andrew Cohen, who claims to be

> enlightened. He is supposed to be a neo.

[Guest guest]

Neo stands for neoadvaitin.

 

Madathil Nair

_________________

 

advaitin , " Soul " <soulyoginima wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> What is a " neo " ?

>

> Soul

>

>

>

> advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair "

> <madathilnair@> wrote:

> > The magazine " Enlightennext " has nothing to do with Arsha Vidya

> > Gurukulam. It is owned by Mr. Andrew Cohen, who claims to be

> > enlightened. He is supposed to be a neo.

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

I would like to know what is your definition of 'neoadvaitin'..is it

described in the scriptures?

Dis Ramana use this term?

 

Blessings,

 

Soul

 

advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair "

<madathilnair wrote:

>

> Neo stands for neoadvaitin.

>

> Madathil Nair

> _________________

>

> advaitin , " Soul " <soulyoginima@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > What is a " neo " ?

> >

> > Soul

> >

> >

> >

> > advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair "

> > <madathilnair@> wrote:

> > > The magazine " Enlightennext " has nothing to do with Arsha Vidya

> > > Gurukulam. It is owned by Mr. Andrew Cohen, who claims to be

> > > enlightened. He is supposed to be a neo.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste.

 

No. It is not described in scriptures.

Bh. Ramana didn't use the term.

The following link might be helpful:

http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/trad_neo/neoadvaita_jacobs.htm

With your kind permission, may we close this thread?

 

Thanks.

 

Madathil Nair

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advaitin , " Soul " <soulyoginima wrote:

> I would like to know what is your definition of 'neoadvaitin'..is it

> described in the scriptures?

> Dis Ramana use this term?

[Guest guest]

Thank you... I find this article full of much un-truth and

speculation.

One should focus on Self, for liberation , and not to 'others' and

speculation of whether they are right or wrong etc.

 

Blessings,

 

Soul

 

 

 

advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair "

<madathilnair wrote:

>

> Namaste.

>

> No. It is not described in scriptures.

> Bh. Ramana didn't use the term.

> The following link might be helpful:

> http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/trad_neo/neoadvaita_jacobs.htm

> With your kind permission, may we close this thread?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Madathil Nair

> _____________

>

> advaitin , " Soul " <soulyoginima@> wrote:

> > I would like to know what is your definition of 'neoadvaitin'..is

it

> > described in the scriptures?

> > Dis Ramana use this term?

>