Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Namaste all. The thirteenth chapter begins with these two technical terms which are important for the understanding of what follows in the rest of the Gita. `Kshetram' meaning `field' is this body *idam sharIraM* says the Lord. Later in #s 5 and 6 (#s6 & 7 in some rescensions) He elaborates this definition by saying what all constitute this kshetram and what its deformations are. Thus the five elemental states of matter, the ten senses, the mind, intelligence and ego, and the five objects of the senses all constitute the kshetram. The deformations are liking and disliking, pleasure and pain, the machine-like unification of the body with the senses, the `consciousness' of the senses and finally the persistence with which the body and senses stay together. All this together constitute the kshetram. By going back to the definition of the Lower PrakRti (aparA-prakRti) in the 7th chapter, we can recognise that everything that has been included in kshetram is part of this (Lower) PrakRti. Now comes *kshetrajna*, the `knower of the Field'. kshetram is the Object, kshetrajna is the Subject. kshetram is PrakRti, kshetrajna is the Purushha. But there are two Purushhas – one `perishable' and the other `imperishable' -- says the Lord in Ch.15 shloka 16: kshara- purushha and akshara-purushha. So which of these purushhas is kshetrajna? But before we answer this question it is necessary to warn ourselves against a universal slip-up (almost an `abuse of language') that almost all of us fall into. I am referring to Vedantic declarations by the Lord such as : *I am this universe. I am everything that you see or hear or feel. I am You too*. Here in this use of language *am* has two connotations. One is that of identity: a mathematical equivalence. " I = Universe " , " I = everything " , " I = You " . The other connotation is " I manifest as the universe, I manifest as everything, I manifest as You " . When the Lord says *kshetrajnaM cApi mAM viddhi* (XIII – 2 (or 3)) ( " Understand Me as the kshetrajna " ), He means it in both of the above connotations. See the explanation below. The JIva, which is nothing but a spark of the ParA-prakRti (VII-5), very often wrongly identifies itself with the BMI and that is when it gets the name of the Kshara-purushha (kshara = perishable). On the other hand if it withdraws itself from this false identification and identifies itself with the Inner Reality that is the Atman within, then it gets the name of akshara-purushha (akshara = imperishable). So when the JIva is in the mode of kshara-purushha, the Lord's statement of *kshetrajnam cApi mAm viddhi* would to the connotation " I am the one who manifests as the kshara-purushha; in that sense kshetrajna is the purushha that you think you are " . When the JIva is in the mode of Akshara-purushha, the Lord's statement of kshetrajnam cApi mAm viddhi* would to the connotation of kshetrajna being identical with the akshara-purushha. But even then, the Ishvaratvam (all-knowing almightiness) that is peculiarly the Lord's would not be the characteristic of the akshara- purushha. Shankaracharya spends considerable time in his commentary on this shloka to establish that this kshetrajna being Ishvara has no involvement in the samsAritva (being subject to all the `experiences' of the JIva). We can also understand it this way: When the JIva is in the mode of kshara-purushha, that very mode itself is fictitious and so the kshetrajna – Ishvara has no taint of the mAyic experiences of the Jiva (kshara-purushha). When the JIva is the mode of akshara- purushha, JIva himself has no `experiences' which all belong only to the mAyic goings-on of the kshara-purushha. And so there is no question of the kshetrajna having any `samsAritva'. Earlier in #42888 I wrote: The presence of the Supreme Lord can be realized just as the sun isrealized first as a reflection on water, and again as a second reflection on the wall of a room, although the sun itself is situated in the sky. The self-realized soul is thus reflected first in the threefold ego and then in the body, senses and mind. Imagine a room in which there is a large vessel of water that receives direct sunlight and reflects it onto the opposite wall in the room. What is the source of this light on the wall? It is the reflected Sun in the water (contained in the vessel). And what is the source of that reflected Sun? The actual Sun in the blazing sky. So also we individuals seem to be having awareness of the outside world. The source of our awareness is our consciousness within. This is the kshetrajna. But this consciousness itself is a reflection of the real supreme Consciousness, the reflection being in our own ego-mind. Mohan-ji in #42901 asks: When you say 'real supreme Consciousness', are you referring to Brahman? The answer is `Yes'. And Mohan continues: when you speak of 'our consciousness within This is the kshetrajna', are you referring to Jivatma at the individual level and Iswara at the macrocosm level? Yes. There have been questions from others about why this kshetrajna is not aware (so it seems) of thoughts and knowledge of other kshetrajnas of the other kshetras. Sada-ji has answered this question elaborately. I shall not add to it. But in an elementary way one can understand it from the `reflected sun ` analogy that we pulled out from the Bhagavatam. The one Sun in the sky is `aware' of all the reflected suns in the different pools but each such reflected sun is not `aware' of the other reflected suns in the other pools! PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 advaitin , " jannagraj " <jannagraj wrote: > > Dear Profvk ji and Br. Pranipata Chaitanyaji: > Humble pranams. where would the apara prakriti and para prikriti be situated in relation to kshara purusha and akshara purusha? Since Purusha is considered to be superior to Prakriti, Kindly clarify. > > Regards. > Jan Nagraj > Hari Om Shri Jan Nagrajji, Pranaams! PuruSha the Self/Atman/Brahman is different from prakrti. Hence there is no kSharapurusha. But shruti in texts like 'tasmat va etasmat atmanaH ..... annAt puruShaH' (Tai Up 2.1.1) and smriti BG 15.16 refered in the post refers to the perceived body as puruSha though it is matter. In vedanta we call this shAkha-chandra nyAya - analogy of the moon on the bough. Pointing to the moon as if in the branch of the tree. Perceived physical body when refered to as kShara/akSharapuruSha, it refers to the AkAra - physical form and not yogyata - fit to be called owing to its sacchidAnanda svarUpa. In Shri Guru Smriti, Br. Pranipata Chaitanya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Br. Pranipatachaitanyaji: Humble pranams. Thank you for your kind reply. Regards. Jan Nagraj advaitin , " pranipatachaitanya " <pranipatachaitanya wrote: PuruSha the Self/Atman/Brahman is different from prakrti. Hence there is no kSharapurusha. Perceived physical body when refered to as kShara/akSharapuruSha, it refers to the AkAra - physical form and not yogyata - fit to be called owing to its sacchidAnanda svarUpa. In Shri Guru Smriti, Br. Pranipata Chaitanya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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