who's self-realisation?...

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advaitin , " narayana145 " <narayana145

wrote:

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>

> H.N.Sreenivasa Murthy

> Pranams to all.

> Dear Sri Dennis Travis,

>

> The question needs a small ammendment. It should be " Does

Brahman

> need any self-realisation. . . in order to REALIZE that it is

Brahman? "

>

> The answer is " YES "

>

> According to the mantra 1-4-10 of Brihadaranyaka Upanishad

and Sri

> Shankara's commentary to that mantra, it is Brahman which has

> supperimposed limitations upon itself, realizes by the grace of

THE GURU

> who is none other than Brahman Itself, that it is the limitless

Brahman

> Itself. It is Brahman/Atman realizing itself as Brahman/Atman. It

is The

> Infinite which limits Itself and takes Itself to be a 'me' and

then,

> when taught by a Guru who is none other than Brahman, realizes

Itself

> as " I AM " .

> THIS IS THE DIVINE DRAMA that is being enacted and going on.

>

>

> With warm and respectful regards,

> Sreenivasa Murthy

 

Dear Murthy-ji,

Your answer is excellent and precise. We are all brahman even now,

but we have to realize that we are brahman.

 

By the way, Dennis Travis-ji,the title should read as 'Whose

realization' instead of 'Who's self-realization'.

Best wishes,

S.N.Sastri

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advaitin , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

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>

> Dear all,

>

> following some interesting messages and talk in here recently...

>

> one could ask also about the self-realisation of Brahman....

>

> means, does Brahman need any self-realisation (of whoever)...in

order

> to stay being Brahman?....

>

> ...

>

> my words aren't too serious, i know...

>

> but i think it's not such easy to just " see & declare " everybody and

> everything as Being Brahman.

>

>

> Kind Regards,

>

>

> Marc

 

Dear all interested in the self realisation topic

 

Self realisation begins with wishing to be at one with the truth in

all facets of ones's life. If this is perservered with God comes to

show one the real and true path to realisation. Once it is achieved

truth is only what is dictated and made clear to the Jiva by Brahman.

Truth and self realisation is never fully attained only partially

attained if this goal is not reached by the person seeking knowledge.

There is a subtle difference between jnana and knowledge. Full

knowledge is what one has to contend with in ones day to day life

where as jnana is limited by the knowledge of ones dharma and duties

to others and to Nature.

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[Guest guest]

H.N.Sreenivasa Murthy

Pranams to all.

advaitin , " Yuvraj " <the_yuvraj wrote: " What

is the need for this divine drama ? why the Brahman dreams ? "

Dear Sri Yuvraj,

 

Sri Shankara says :

 

SrutEryathABUtArthAvadyotanE ||

Sruthi points out , reveals, reminds us about existing facts as

they are.

 

We are ignorant of these facts which are revealed by Sruti . Sruti

helps us to see those facts by us within us . It provides the necessary

tools and methodology for cognizing/realizing them within oneself by

oneself.

 

While dealing with facts there is no question of 'why', 'who',

'how',

'when' , 'where' etc, etc. WHY gravitation? why electron and proton are

existing? Why earth rotates around the sun as well rotates around

itself? They do exist and you have to accept those facts.

 

Similarly Sruti deals with metaphysical facts. These are not

something which have to be simply believed in. What fact Sruti is

revealing and which are not known to us, can be verified' here and now'

by employing appropriate means. LIFE has provided that to

every being.

 

Finally it is Brahma's freedom which no entity can question.

'Why, how, where, when' of Brahman's Divine Drama cannot be known by an

entity because the entity does not exist prior to the appearance of this

unfathomable drama. One thing we should always remember : human mind has

its own limitations .It can function within certain parameters only.

 

With warm and respectful regards,

Sreenivasa Murthy.