Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Namaste all. Dr. Padmanabhan Sharma wants to know about kUTastha. The best way is to open the advaitin home page and make an advanced search for the single word 'kUTastha'. You will get more than 50 messages pertaining to kUTastha. You can choose! Alternatively, if you want a connected account from scratch, one possible reference could be the web-page on 'Who is the Doer- Experiencer' in the site www.geocities.com/profvk/ The same should also be available on Dennis's website. But I am not able to locate it there! PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Profvk-ji, I do not have this at my website but will happily add it to the list and serialize it over a 2 – 3 week period. if this is ok. Best wishes, Dennis advaitin [advaitin ] On Behalf Of advaitins Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:09 AM advaitin kUTastha Alternatively, if you want a connected account from scratch, one possible reference could be the web-page on 'Who is the Doer- Experiencer' in the site www.geocities.com/profvk/ The same should also be available on Dennis's website. But I am not able to locate it there! PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Namaste Prof. VK-ji and other members, Here are some references on kuuTastha. Adi Shankara interprets the three occurances of the word as the following: In 6.8, as 'who is unmoved' or immutable and in 12.3 and 15.16 as the deceiver. <QUOTE> The word kuta (deceptive) is well known in the world in such phrases as, 'kuta-rupam, deceptive in appearance,' 'kuta-saksyam, false evidence', etc. Thus, kuta is that which, as ignorance etc., is the seed of many births, full of evil within, referred to by such words as maya, the undifferentiated, etc., and well known from such texts as, 'One should know Maya to be Nature, but the Lord of Maya to be the supreme God' (Sv. 4.10), </QUOTE> In 15.16, He interprets it in a similar way: <QUOTE> Or, kuta is maya, deception, falsehood, crookedness, which are synonymous; that which exists in the diverse forms of maya etc. is the kutasthah. </QUOTE> == This word appears in two places in the vivekacuDAmaNi. Here are the verses, their translations and commentary. These are from vivekacuDAmaNi with an English translation of the Sanskrit Commentary of Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati of Sringeri. First occurance is verse 191 (verse numbers may differ in other versions of the book): <QUOTE> yo.ayaM viGYaanamayaH praaNeshhu hR^idi sphuratyayaM jyotiH . kuuTasthaH sannaatmaa kartaa bhoktaa bhavatyupaadhisthaH .. 191.. This aatmaa which is compacted of viGYaana which is self-effulgent and shines in the heart of near the praaNas, being immutable, becomes a doer and enjoyer in the midst of the upaadhis. praaNeshhu hR^idi sphuratyayaM jyotiH: praaNeshhu does not mean 'in the praaNas. It is 'saamiipya saptami', like the paaSaaNe vR^ikshaH: tree in a stone, i.e., tree near a stone. praaNeshu means near the eye etc. As the reference of 'I' is attached to many things, in the context of King Janaka's question to Sage yaGYavalkya: 'Which of these is the aatma?' and the answer to it. 'praaNa stands for the indriyas and the vital airs and the aatman is not said to be any of these which are near it.' Similarly, the buddhi too is near the praaNa etc. But there is a difference which is referred to by the expression: hR^idi sphurat svyayam jyotiH. Buddhi is what evelops the caitanya jyotis which snines in the lotus of the heart, which, while not capable of being illumined by anything else, itself illumines everything. This viGYaanamaya caitanya is never found to exist in the jiiva apart from the buddhi since from the beginning till the moment of release it is known as viGYaanamaya. Or, by the rule that 'mayat' also indicates one's own self it may be spoken of as the form of viGYaana (viGYaanasvaruupa). Such an aatmaa is said to be kuuTastha, i.e., it stands for ever like an anvil without undergoing any modification. It is without change. Yet, getting identified with buddhi with its function of knowing and action, it becomes tainted by avidyaa, and becomes an actor and an experiencer, even as due to delusion, a crystal appears red by contact with a red color. kuuTasthassan: api is to be added as kuuTasthassanapi: though it is kuuTastha. </QUOTE> Note the emphasis of the word 'api' by the aacharya! The following is the second occurance. <QUOTE> raveryathaa karmaNi saakshibhaavo vanheryathaa daahaniyaamakatvam.h . rajjoryathaa.a.aropitavastusaN^gaH tathaiva kuuTasthachidaatmano me .. 506.. As the Sun is a mere witness of an action, as the fire makes for the burning quality of iron, as the rope is associated with the object super-imposed on it, so too, is what pertains to me who am the cidaatman in my inmost being. Known as the karmasaakshi (the witness of all actions), jagaccakshuH (the eye of the witness), the sun is the witness of actions of all creatures. But it is not connected with any of these actions. So too I am the witness of all actions being the inmost unchanging cidaatman. As the burning character of fire is imagined in the iron when it is said that the (heated) iron burns, the agency for action which pertains to buddhi is attributed to me. So too, as the serpent imagined in the stick, or the waterline or the cleft in the ground, the connections with body etc., are imagined in me, the unchanging cit. In fact, being unattached applies in all three illustrations. </QUOTE> The above second instance is when the shishya is describing his experience to his Guru. The three examples used in the above verse are different levels of contact of the 'original' with the 'superimposed'! == Also, in a previous post, I had referred to Prof. Ranade referring to the occurances of kuuTastha. Here is the precise extract from his book. From chapter titled 'Characteristics of an Equanimous Man (sthitapraGYa)' <QUOTE> .... Now the question before us is: what is the highest moral ideal realizable by man, according to the Bhagavad Gita? The answer to this question is found in its famous doctrine of sthitapraGYa. In the history of the Greek and Indian philosophy, we find that the sage of the Stoics is characterized by apathia, the sage of epicureans by ataraxia, and the sage of the Bhagavad Gita by the anasakti. These are all at the same level. These sages point to an ideal which we all have to realize by our own effort and our own fortune if possible. The Bhagavad Gita goes to the length of calling the sthitapraGYa a kuuTastha himself. (kutastho vijitendriyah 6.8). Now what is the meaning of the word kuuTastha? It is a very peculiar and important word. My own Vedantic teacher used to explain the word kuuTastha as meaning unmoving like the iron anvil (kuutavat tishthatiiti). In that sense it occurs in Vedanta Paribhasha; but kuuTastha also means the soul and the very peculiarly also God in the head as Kabira has put it. dasave dware taali laagi, alakha puruukha, jaako dhyaan dharo -- Paramartha Sopana, Part I.5.16 The top most part of the brain is a very famous meaning of the word kuuTa. It is the summit or the Pinnacle. Now when the Bhagavad Gita speaks about this sthitapraGYa or kuuTastha, it implies automatically that he is the individual soul, the soul in the head, or the soul above the head, or the soul all-governing. Many people have known from the Bhagavad Gita what are the various characteristics of such a sthitapraGYa. We shall not cite all the instances from the Bhagavad Gita relating to the characteristics of a sthitapraGYa, but refer to only a few of them from which we shall gather together the chief characteristics and describe under the four heads: psychological, ethical, social and mystical. .... </QUOTE> == We should also note the word appears in chapter 8 of the pancadasi, where we get a precise definition, which also (obviously!) works with our reading of Vedanta Paribhasha. Here is the definition from the summary of that chapter by Shri Sastri-ji. <QUOTE> The consciousness that witnesses the interval between two successive vrittis as well as the period during which vrittis are absent is called kuuTastha. This is immutable. </QUOTE> The above is taken from http://www.celextel.org/summaryofvedantabooks/summaryofpanchadasi.html?page=3 == Learned members can kindly point out any other references and correct me. praNAms to all advaitins, Ramakrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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