Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Pranams to all. When two or more words in a sentence, each of which has a different meaning, together denote one and the same object, they are said to be in sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. (in apposition). Shri Shankara has, in his bhAShya on brahmasUtra 3.3.9, explained that sAmAnAdhikaraNyam is of four kinds. These four kinds are explained below. 1. adhyAse sAmAnAdhikaraNyam- superimposition. Here the word ‘adhyAsa’ is not used in the sense of superimposition due to delusion, but in the sense of a deliberate mental act of looking upon one thing as another for the purpose of meditation. The upanishadic statement, “Meditate on name as brahman” is an instance of such a sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. Here the idea of brahman is superimposed on a name, but the idea of name persists and is not negated by the idea of brahman as it happens in the case of a superimposition due to delusion. Another example is meditation on an image as Lord ViShNu, where the idea of ViShNu, is superimposed on the image. 2. apavAde sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. (This is also known as bAdhAyAm sAmAnAdhikaraNyam)- ablation. The example given by Shri Shankara for this is--- the idea that the body-mind complex is the Self, which has been persisting over innumerable births, is discarded on the rise of right knowledge arising from the Upanishadic statement ‘That thou art”. Here what was thought to be the Self is found to be not so. Thus the wrong knowledge is replaced by right knowledge. Another example is the statement, “The silver is nacre”. Here the meaning is that what appeared to be silver is really only nacre. The statement “sarvam khalu idam brahma (Ch. up, 3.14.1), which means “All this is indeed brahman”, is of this type. It means that all this that appears has no reality and that there is nothing but Brahman. In this kind of sAmAnAdhikaraNyam the two which are in apposition are of different levels of reality. Silver is prAtibhAsika, while nacre is vyAvahArika. “All this” is vyAvahArika, while brahman is pAramArthika. 3.ekatve sAmAnAdhikaraNyam- identity. An example is “satyam jnanam anantam brahma”. Here each of the three words, satyam, jnanam and anantam has a different meaning, but together they denote brahman. Here satyam, jnanam anantam are identical with brahman. Another example is, “The pot-space is the same as the total space”. Here both are equally real (vyAvahArika sattA) and their identity is declared. 4. visheShaNa-visheShya-bhAva sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. Here the relationship between the words is that of substantive and attribute. An example is, “a blue lotus”. Best wishes,S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Namaste. Kindly permit me to express the following: 1. The correct BS reference appears to be 3.3.19. 2. Is the term explained samAnAdhikaraNyam or samAnAdhikaraNam? 3. In No. 3 (ekatve samAnadhikaraNam), pot space is identifiable because it is bordered by the walls of the pot whereas is there anything such as pure space in existence? Isn't pure space recognized as an 'entity' due to the existence of objects? As such, is it right to term it as a vyAvahArika sattA? I know Shankara has cited this as an example. Yet, is it permissible to entertain afterthoughts? 4. Are satyam, jnAnam and anantam vyAvahArika sattAs? They are only vyAvaharika concepts and not tangible like an aluminium or clay pot. PraNAms to all. Madathil Nair _________________________ advaitin , " S.N. Sastri " <sn.sastri wrote: > > When two or more words in a sentence, each of which has a different > meaning, together denote one and the same object, they are said to be in > sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. (in apposition). ............... > 3.ekatve sAmAnAdhikaraNyam- identity. > > An example is " satyam jnanam anantam brahma " . Here each of the three > words, satyam, jnanam and anantam has a different meaning, but together they > denote brahman. Here satyam, jnanam anantam are identical with brahman. > > Another example is, " The pot-space is the same as the total space " . > > Here both are equally real (vyAvahArika sattA) and their identity is > declared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Shastriji - PraNams Beautiful post -There was some analysis on samaanaadhikarana by Ken and if I remember it is in the files uploaded. I think this should be added along with that post. Just few comments based on my understanding relating to the last one visheShaNa-visheshya samaanadhikaraNa - I think Bhagavan Ramanuja uses this to account for the tat tvam asi statement as per vishiShTaadvaita - where in the statement tat and tvam the visheShaNa and viseShya samaandhikarana is used since jiiva is considered as attributive aspect of Brahman similar to blue lotus. - in this samaanadhikaraNa, blue is not same as lotus but blueness belongs to the lotus and cannot exist independent of lotus (or some object) while lotus can be lotus without being blue although it cannnot be called blue lotus at that time. The samaanadhikaraNa comes since the substantive - blueness of the blue and lotusness of the lotus refere to one and the same in the blue lotus. But here we are only referring to swaabhaavika visheShaNas - or inhernet qualities and not samyoga or tatasta qualities like Devadatta's house is where crow is sitting now. There is no samaanaadhikaraNa of crow sitting and Devadatta's house although there is visheshaNa-visheShya sambandha or relation between qualifier and qualified. The universe and the cause maaya are considered as tatasta lakshna for Brahman in the definition of janmaadhyasya yataH. Hence mityaa objects of pots and pans do not come under samaanadhikaraNa aspect - while satyam,jnaanam anantam are swaruupa lakshaNas as Shankara explains clearly. would welcome your comments. Hari Om! Sadananda ------------------ --- On Mon, 3/16/09, S.N. Sastri <sn.sastri wrote:   When two or more words in a sentence, each of which has a different meaning, together denote one and the same object, they are said to be in sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. (in apposition).  Shri Shankara has, in his bhAShya on brahmasUtra 3.3.9, explained that sAmAnAdhikaraNyam is of four kinds.            These four kinds are explained below.  4. visheShaNa-visheShy a-bhAva sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. Here the relationship between the words is that of substantive and attribute. An example is, “a blue lotusâ€. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: > But here we are only referring to swaabhaavika visheShaNas - or inhernet qualities and not samyoga or tatasta qualities like Devadatta's house is where crow is sitting now. There is no samaanaadhikaraNa of crow sitting and Devadatta's house although there is visheshaNa-visheShya sambandha or relation between qualifier and qualified. > > The universe and the cause maaya are considered as tatasta lakshna for Brahman in the definition of janmaadhyasya yataH. Hence mityaa objects of pots and pans do not come under samaanadhikaraNa aspect - while satyam,jnaanam anantam are swaruupa lakshaNas as Shankara explains clearly. > > would welcome your comments. > > Hari Om! > Sadananda Dear Sada-ji, You have touched upon a topic that I was proposing to make the subject of my next post. What we have learnt is that the example given for taTasthalakShaNa is the crow sitting on a house. I have now learnt from an eminent scholar that there are some further refinements to this. There are three terms—visheShaNa, upAdhi and upalakShaNa. The common feature of all these is that they serve to distinguish a particular object or entity from others. But there is a subtle difference among these three terms and a special significance is attached to each of these terms. visheShaNa is what is always with the object or entity. e.g., a white cow. When the cow moves the whiteness is also always with it. upadhi is what distinguishes an entity from others, without being always with it. For example, there are 10 persons sitting on the floor, while only one person is sitting on a chair in a room next to mine. I ask some one to bring the person sitting on the chair. He goes and brings the man alone, and not the chair. The chair has served to distinguish him from others, but it is not always with him. But the man was sitting in the chair when the man who went to call him saw him. This is the feature that distinguishes upAdhi from upalakShaNa. The upAdhi is a thing that is there with the object or entity at the relevant time. upalakShaNa is a quality which was there earlier, but is not there at the time when the term is used. For example, a person goes in search of a house of a particular person. While walking along the street he saw the cart of a vegetable-seller standing in front of a particular house. (This may not happen in USA, but is common in India). He walked further and asked a person standing in front of another house , " Which is the house of Mr A? " . The man answers, " It is the house in front of which a cart was standing when you were passing by it " . (By this time the cart has moved away). Here the house is identified by a past event which was known to both. Thus, upalakShaNa is what enables one to distinguish a particular object or entity by something which was there earlier, but is not there now. The example of a crow sitting on a house is also upalakShaNa because the crow would not be there when the person reaches the house. The same is called taTasthalakShaNa when the idea is to distinguish it from svarUpalakShaNa. Best wishes, S.N.Sastri > > ------------------ > --- On Mon, 3/16/09, S.N. Sastri <sn.sastri wrote: > > >   When two or more words in a sentence, each of which has a different meaning, together denote one and the same object, they are said to be in sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. (in apposition). >  Shri Shankara has, in his bhAShya on brahmasUtra 3.3.9, explained that sAmAnAdhikaraNyam is of four kinds. >      >       These four kinds are explained below. >  > 4. visheShaNa-visheShy a-bhAva sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. > Here the relationship between the words is that of substantive and attribute. An example is, “a blue lotusâ€. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Sastriji - PraNams Fantastic - glad to learn the difference between upAdhi and upalakShaNa. I am also trying to find correct words to distinguish swaruupa and swaabhaavika visheShaNas - which I call the first one as necessary and sufficient while the next one is only necessary but not sufficient quality. Like sweetness is necessary but not sufficient quality to distinguish sugar. I do not know if there words for proper distinction to differentiate these two. I discussed this with swami Parmaarthanandaji - he could appreciate the difference but just suggested use swaruupa for one and swabhaavika for the other, although swaruupa is swaabhaavika also while reverse is not necessarily true - Like lotusness is swarupa while blueness is swaabhaavika for blue lotus. samaanaadhikaraNa applies at swaabhaavika level but not at swaruupa level. If I take blue lotus and green lotus, lotusness is samaanam for both but not superficial colors which are needed to distinguish one lotus from the other, but not necessarily to distinguish lotus from blue and greee lillies. Just trying to differentiate visheShaNa visheShya sambandhas. From the difference between upalakshaNa and upAdhi you gave, one can say as long as upaadhis are there, upahita caitanya remains as jiivan mukta. Only perhaps when the upaadhis drop out, from the point of disciples the upaadhis have become upalakshaNas - I am just thinking loud based on the description you give for the two. Very Interesting. Hari Om! Sadananda --- On Mon, 3/16/09, snsastri <sn.sastri wrote: There are three terms—visheShaNa, upAdhi and upalakShaNa. The common feature of all these is that they serve to distinguish a particular object or entity from others. But there is a subtle difference among these three terms and a special significance is attached to each of these terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: > There was some analysis on samaanaadhikarana by Ken and if I remember it is in the files uploaded. > > I think this should be added along with that post. > Namaste, It is in the Folder/File Mahavakyas. Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 advaitin , " Madathil Rajendran Nair " <madathilnair wrote: > > Namaste. > > Kindly permit me to express the following: > > 1. The correct BS reference appears to be 3.3.19. > > 2. Is the term explained samAnAdhikaraNyam or samAnAdhikaraNam? > > 3. In No. 3 (ekatve samAnadhikaraNam), pot space is identifiable because it is bordered by the walls of the pot whereas is there anything such as pure space in existence? Isn't pure space recognized as an 'entity' due to the existence of objects? As such, is it right to term it as a vyAvahArika sattA? I know Shankara has cited this as an example. Yet, is it permissible to entertain afterthoughts? > > 4. Are satyam, jnAnam and anantam vyAvahArika sattAs? They are only vyAvaharika concepts and not tangible like an aluminium or clay pot. > > PraNAms to all. > > Madathil Nair Dear Nair-ji, I have verified that the sutra is 3.3.9 as I had stated. The sutra is--- vyApteshca samanjasam. The term explained is samAnAdhikaraNam. I find that I had made a mistake in the transliteration. The first letter `s' should have been followed by a small letter 'a' and not the capital letter " A'. samAna means `same' and adhikaraNam in the present context means `grammatical case'. The words in the sentence, which together denote one and the same object, are said to be in `samAnAdhikaraNam'. The relationship that obtains between (or among) the words is known as sAmAnAdhikaraNyam. So either of the words can be used in the present context. The word used in the bhAShya is sAmAnAdhikaraNyam, but I have used the word samAnAdhikaraNam because it is comparatively easier to read for those not familiar with Samskrit. According to vedAnta, space or AkAsha has an origin. In brahma sutra 2.3. 1-7, it has been held that space is a product, after refuting all possible objections. Being a product, it has only vyAvahArika reality. Everything in this world is either vyAvaharika or prAtibhAsika, whether it is a concrete object or a concept. The sentence `satyam jnAnam anantam brahma' appears in the taitt. up. The upanishad itself has only vyAvahArika reality and so this sentence is also only vyAvahArika. Best wishes, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: > > > Sastriji - PraNams > > From the difference between upalakshaNa and upAdhi you gave, one can say as long as upaadhis are there, upahita caitanya remains as jiivan mukta. Only perhaps when the upaadhis drop out, from the point of disciples the upaadhis have become upalakshaNas - I am just thinking loud based on the description you give for the two. Very Interesting. > > > Hari Om! > Sadananda Dear Sada-ji, The definitions of upAdhi. etc, that I gave are applicable only when we want to distinguish these terms from one another. The term upAdhi has another meaning which is what is applicable when we speak of BMI as upAdhi of the Self. I shall deal with this in another post. Regards, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 This is in continuation of the meanings of the terms visheShaNam, upAdhi and upalakShaNam given in post # 44129. There all the three are intended to qualify substantives and to distinguish them from all other objects. The words upAdhi and upalakShaNam have also other meanings than those given in # 44129. Another meaning of upAdhi is--upa samIpe AdadhAti svIyam dharmam— The meaning is—upAdhi is that which gives its quality to what is in its proximity. One example is a red flower making a crystal near it look red. Similarly, the space within a pot appears to have the size and shape of the pot. This is the sense in which the BMI is said to be the upAdhi of the Self. Here the self appears to have taken the qualities of the BMI. Apart from the sense given in # 44129, the word upalakShanam is used also in the following sense. When only one item in a group Is specifically mentioned and the intention is to denote all the items of that group, it is said that the item mentioned is an `upalakShaNam' for all the items in the group. For example, in some places in the upanishads where the eye alone is mentioned and it is explained in the bhAShya that it is an upalakShaNam, the meaning is that what is meant is not only the eye but all the five sense organs, of which the eye is one. Similarly, when water is stated to be upalakShaNa, it means that all the five elements are meant. S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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