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--- On Fri, 3/27/09, ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva wrote:

 

 

ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva

Matter, Time and Existence

advaitin

Friday, March 27, 2009, 5:59 PM

 

 

Namaste Advaitins,

 

Lets say that you know something.  We are being told that its existence 

was indeterminate before ones knowledge of its existence.  To summarise 

this position:

A.  x is known, it exists in a determinate fashion i.e. it is known

B.  prior to that it is not known whether it exists or not. i.e. it is 

unknown/indeterminated

 

This makes the existence of x time sensitive and seems to make it neither 

existent nor non-existent before it was noticed.  How does this idea fit 

into the rejection of the notion of existence coming out of indeterminate 

existence? (to adapt the question put in Ch.Up.VI.ii.1)  Can we give a 

sense to the idea of indeterminate existence really?  What Im trying to 

get at here is the idea that our encounter with existing things is in the 

now, in the present moment.  This is where existence is, where things are, 

where beings be.  Existents exist, that fullness never leaves them.  The 

past is granted existence by virtue of present existence.  It cannot be 

granted indeterminate existence.  Indeterminate existence is a form of 

words which can have no real meaning. It is a purely mental conceptual 

formulation and cannot be realised in any immediate fashion.  Therefore it 

is a faulty axiom and not a suitable launching pad for inquiry.

 

Ch.V.ii.3: Reply: No, Since it is Existence itself that is perceived 

otherwise through the duality of different forms, therefore, there is no 

non-existence of anything anywhere.

 

Best Wishes,

Michael.

 

 

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Michael - PraNAms

 

 

It looks like my reply button has it own existence without my knowledge!

 

I must say I really admire your persistence.

 

All the best

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

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Namaste Sada-ji,

Just a different angle, same target. Others may take it up and scrutinise

it for what its worth.

Best Wishes,

Michael.

 

 

Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:03:51 -0000, kuntimaddi sadananda

<kuntimaddisada wrote:

 

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> Michael - PraNAms

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> It looks like my reply button has it own existence without my knowledge!

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> I must say I really admire your persistence.

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> All the best

>

> Hari Om!

> Sadananda

>

>

 

 

 

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