Waking and Dream States

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Sada-ji wrote:

The dream world that I perceive

 

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Namaste Sada-ji,

To call the dream experience ‘perception’ is an imprecision that leads to

mistakes. Perception applies to the waking state only. If I have a

perception of the great hall of the temple at Tiruvanamalai I can proceed

to count the pillars there. If I imagine or dream that I am there I can

do no such thing. B.S.B. II.ii.28: " Moreover, dream vision is a kind of

memory, whereas the visions of the waking state are forms of

perception(through valid means of knowledge).

 

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Sada-ji wrote:

The blue print for the creation of the dream world come from the vaasanaas

of the individual and blue print for the creation of the waking world

comes from the samashTi vaasanaas of the all jiivas put together.

 

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Comment: This is an interesting idea. It seems fanciful particularly when

one considers that the world was here long before humans arrived on the

scene.

 

Best Wishes,

Michael.

[Guest guest]

Dear Michael,

I think we eventually have to concede that we will never have a

totally satisfactory explanation for empirical reality. And this is inevitable,

given that the (absolute) fact of the matter is that there is not even a world

now, let alone ‘before humans arrived’. All there ever has been and will be is

name and form of the non-dual brahman.

Sorry to reiterate what has been said so many time (and is of

course already known to you) but I feel that we have all been getting somewhat ‘bogged-down’

of late in one aspect or another of this problem. I think we should take the interim

scriptural statements about this in the spirit in which they were intended,

i.e. precisely ‘interim’. This particularly applies to all of the concepts like

creation and karma etc.

Best wishes,

Dennis

 

 

 

 

advaitin [advaitin ] On Behalf Of ombhurbhuva

Monday, March 30, 2009 4:36 PM

advaitin

Waking and Dream States

 

 

 

 

 

<<Sada-ji wrote:

The blue print for the creation of the dream world come from the vaasanaas

of the individual and blue print for the creation of the waking world

comes from the samashTi vaasanaas of the all jiivas put together.

 

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Comment: This is an interesting idea. It seems fanciful particularly when

one considers that the world was here long before humans arrived on the

scene.>>

 

Best Wishes,