Kordha or Anger

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Namaste, Sri Sadanandaji, all

Thank you for your note on Anger.

Anger, like any other emotion, does not ask anyone’s permission, it takes

place. However, person to person it varies, i.e. in degree.  When we say

desires/expectations are not fulfilled disappointment takes place which alone

i.e. such disappointments, lets anger to take place. There is a difference,

although very slight between desires and expectations, (i.e. kama and

prateeksha). Expectations generally have their base on pre-conceived notions,

and it is based on such notions only one expects things/situations to be such

and such or people to behave in such and such manner.

Like continuous thinking about an object creates attachment and desire for that

object, pre-conceived-notions recorded in our minds, results in expectations.

 Ignorance alone is the cause for such notions and when self knowledge takes

place all notions disappear, although they may appear from time to time due to

habitual error.

It is my conviction that with Atma Gnana, one can not only manage emotions very

well but in due course get over emotions.

 

I came across another short article, maybe a little irrelevant, related to

Anger, which is copied below:

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“A saint asked his disciples, 'Why do we shout in anger? Why do people shout

at each other when they are upset?'

 

Disciples thought for a while, one of them said, 'Because we lose our calm, we

shout for that.'

 

'But, why to shout when the other person is just next to you?' asked the saint.

'Isn't it possible to speak to him or her with a soft voice? Why do you shout at

a person when you're angry?'

 

Disciples gave some other answers but none satisfied the saint.

 

Finally he explained, 'When two people are angry at each other, their hearts

distance a lot. To cover that distance they must shout to be able to hear each

other. The angrier they are, the stronger they will have to shout to hear each

other through that great distance.'

 

Then the saint asked, 'What happens when two people fall in love? They don't

shout at each other but talk softly, why? Because their hearts are very close.

The distance between them is very small...'

 

The saint continued, 'When they love each other even more, what happens? They do

not speak, only whisper and they get even closer to each other in their love.

Finally they even need not whisper, they only look at each other and that's all.

That is how close two people are when they love each other.' 

MORAL: When you argue do not let your hearts get distant, do not say words that

distance each otherâ€

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Kind regards to all

Mani

 

 

 

 

 

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I wd like to quote from Rabindranath Tagore about anger,here,for the benefits of

all:-

 

Tagore had instructed his driver to be present sharp at 7 AM next day as he had

to go for an imp function.Tagore was ready at 6:45..The driver didnt turn

up..7..,8..,9..No he didnt come at all..a furious(angry Tagore)managed to go

thro someother means..

Next day evening the driver came to see Tagore..

Tagore blasted him left and right and dindt allow the 'driver even to speak' for

the next 15 mts..

a sobbing driver, when there was silence after Tagore's outburst said

" Sir,I lost my Child Yday..I had to bury him..I didnt even know how to convey

this to you Sir..Only to convey this tragic news I came in person " ..he said..

 

Tagore says " never before in my life I felt so humbled..Tagore wept

uncontrollably and apologised profusedly to the driver and gave him enough money

to go and do all the 10 day rituals..

He says " never in my life I wd lose my temper after this incident! "

Pranams to all

s.rajah iyer

 

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http://www.srajahiyer.sulekha.com/

 

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, R.S.MANI <r_s_mani wrote:

 

R.S.MANI <r_s_mani

Kordha or Anger

" group " <advaitin >

Thursday, June 4, 2009, 6:12 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste, Sri Sadanandaji, all

 

Thank you for your note on Anger.

 

Anger, like any other emotion, does not ask anyone’s permission, it takes

place. However, person to person it varies, i.e. in degree.  When we say

desires/expectation s are not fulfilled disappointment takes place which alone

i.e. such disappointments, lets anger to take place. There is a difference,

although very slight between desires and expectations, (i.e. kama and

prateeksha). Expectations generally have their base on pre-conceived notions,

and it is based on such notions only one expects things/situations to be such

and such or people to behave in such and such manner.

 

Like continuous thinking about an object creates attachment and desire for that

object, pre-conceived- notions recorded in our minds, results in expectations.

 Ignorance alone is the cause for such notions and when self knowledge takes

place all notions disappear, although they may appear from time to time due to

habitual error.

 

It is my conviction that with Atma Gnana, one can not only manage emotions very

well but in due course get over emotions.

 

 

 

I came across another short article, maybe a little irrelevant, related to

Anger, which is copied below:

 

============ ========= ========= ========= ==

 

 

 

“A saint asked his disciples, 'Why do we shout in anger? Why do people shout

at each other when they are upset?'

 

 

 

Disciples thought for a while, one of them said, 'Because we lose our calm, we

shout for that.'

 

 

 

'But, why to shout when the other person is just next to you?' asked the saint.

'Isn't it possible to speak to him or her with a soft voice? Why do you shout at

a person when you're angry?'

 

 

 

Disciples gave some other answers but none satisfied the saint.

 

 

 

Finally he explained, 'When two people are angry at each other, their hearts

distance a lot. To cover that distance they must shout to be able to hear each

other. The angrier they are, the stronger they will have to shout to hear each

other through that great distance.'

 

 

 

Then the saint asked, 'What happens when two people fall in love? They don't

shout at each other but talk softly, why? Because their hearts are very close.

The distance between them is very small...'

 

 

 

The saint continued, 'When they love each other even more, what happens? They do

not speak, only whisper and they get even closer to each other in their love.

Finally they even need not whisper, they only look at each other and that's all.

That is how close two people are when they love each other.' 

 

MORAL: When you argue do not let your hearts get distant, do not say words that

distance each otherâ€

 

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Kind regards to all

 

Mani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel

http://in.travel. /

 

 

 

 

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So beautiful, Suriji, thank you!

 

Pranams

 

Om Shanti

 

Sitara

 

 

advaitin , SURI <SURI441 wrote:

>

> I wd like to quote from Rabindranath Tagore about anger,here,for the benefits

of all:-

>

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advaitin , " R.S.MANI " <r_s_mani wrote:

>

>

> Namaste, Sri Sadanandaji, all

> Thank you for your note on Anger.

> Anger, like any other emotion, does not ask anyone’s permission, it takes

place. However, person to person it varies, i.e. in degree.  When we say

desires/expectations are not fulfilled disappointment takes place which alone

i.e. such disappointments, lets anger to take place. There is a difference,

although very slight between desires and expectations, (i.e. kama and

prateeksha). Expectations generally have their base on pre-conceived notions,

and it is based on such notions only one expects things/situations to be such

and such or people to behave in such and such manner.

> Like continuous thinking about an object creates attachment and desire for

that object, pre-conceived-notions recorded in our minds, results in

expectations.  Ignorance alone is the cause for such notions and when self

knowledge takes place all notions disappear, although they may appear from time

to time due to habitual error.

> It is my conviction that with Atma Gnana, one can not only manage emotions

very well but in due course get over emotions.

>  

> I came across another short article, maybe a little irrelevant, related to

Anger, which is copied below:

> =========================================

 

Namaste,RSM,

 

Anger is simply frustrated desire and is a manifestation of ego or ahamkara.

However there is raising one's voice and then there is losing control to

emotion, which is a different thing altogether...Cheers Tony.

[Guest guest]

advaitin , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote:

 

advaitin , " R.S.MANI " <r_s_mani@> wrote:

>

>

> Namaste, Sri Sadanandaji, all

> Thank you for your note on Anger.

> Anger, like any other emotion, does not ask anyone’s permission, it takes

place. However, person to person it varies, i.e. in degree.  When we say

desires/expectations are not fulfilled disappointment takes place which alone

i.e. such disappointments, lets anger to take place. There is a difference,

although very slight between desires and expectations, (i.e. kama and

prateeksha). Expectations generally have their base on pre-conceived notions,

and it is based on such notions only one expects things/situations to be such

and such or people to behave in such and such manner.

> Like continuous thinking about an object creates attachment and desire for

that object, pre-conceived-notions recorded in our minds, results in

expectations.  Ignorance alone is the cause for such notions and when self

knowledge takes place all notions disappear, although they may appear from time

to time due to habitual error.

> It is my conviction that with Atma Gnana, one can not only manage emotions

very well but in due course get over emotions.

>  

> I came across another short article, maybe a little irrelevant, related to

Anger, which is copied below:

> =========================================

 

Namaste,RSM,

 

Anger is simply frustrated desire and is a manifestation of ego or ahamkara.

However there is raising one's voice and then there is losing control to

emotion, which is a different thing altogether...Cheers Tony.

 

--- End forwarded message ---

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tony ji,prof.vk ji :

 

geocities are closing as informed by .all your valuable works,plz save them

in appropriate place like say google documents...etc.just my 2 cents info.thnx

for sharing your immense knowledge.

 

suresh.

[Guest guest]

Dear Tony ,

 

Off the track :

 

Often the anger or krodha that we see in others is just a reflection of the same

pent up feeling that resides within us. When we are at peace , the anger  in

others does not affect us at all !

 

Pranams

 

ramesh

 

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

 

 

Tony OClery <aoclery

Re: Kordha or Anger

advaitin

Friday, June 5, 2009, 12:00 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin@ s.com, " R.S.MANI " <r_s_mani@.. .> wrote:

>

>

> Namaste, Sri Sadanandaji, all

> Thank you for your note on Anger.

> Anger, like any other emotion, does not ask anyone’s permission, it

takes place. However, person to person it varies, i.e. in degree.  When we

say desires/expectation s are not fulfilled disappointment takes place which

alone i.e. such disappointments, lets anger to take place. There is a

difference, although very slight between desires and expectations, (i.e. kama

and prateeksha). Expectations generally have their base on pre-conceived

notions, and it is based on such notions only one expects things/situations to

be such and such or people to behave in such and such manner.

> Like continuous thinking about an object creates attachment and desire for

that object, pre-conceived- notions recorded in our minds, results in

expectations.  Ignorance alone is the cause for such notions and when self

knowledge takes place all notions disappear, although they may appear from time

to time due to habitual error.

> It is my conviction that with Atma Gnana, one can not only manage emotions

very well but in due course get over emotions.

>  

> I came across another short article, maybe a little irrelevant, related to

Anger, which is copied below:

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ==

 

Namaste,RSM,

 

Anger is simply frustrated desire and is a manifestation of ego or ahamkara.

However there is raising one's voice and then there is losing control to

emotion, which is a different thing altogether.. .Cheers Tony.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

advaitin , ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv wrote:

>

> Dear Tony ,

>  

> Off the track :

>  

> Often the anger or krodha that we see in others is just a reflection of the

same pent up feeling that resides within us. When we are at peace , the anger 

in others does not affect us at all !

>

> Pranams

>  

> ramesh

>

> --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

>

>

> Tony OClery <aoclery

> Re: Kordha or Anger

> advaitin

> Friday, June 5, 2009, 12:00 AM

>

>

> Namaste,RSM,

>

> Anger is simply frustrated desire and is a manifestation of ego or ahamkara.

However there is raising one's voice and then there is losing control to

emotion, which is a different thing altogether.. .Cheers Tony.

 

Namast RSM,

 

I don't want to get into the realms of psychology here,,,but let me just say

this.........the ego within oneself is the trigger for anger in oneself or

influenced by others...for if there was no ego who in fact would get

angry?..Many people may have pent up anger or frustration for various reasons,

and then something in somebody else triggers the ego

reaction...............Cheers Tony.

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tony ji :

 

>>I don't want to get into the realms of psychology here,,,but let me just say

this.........the ego within oneself is the trigger for anger in oneself or

influenced by others...for if there was no ego who in fact would get

angry?..Many people may have pent up anger or frustration for various reasons,

and then something in somebody else triggers the ego

reaction...............Cheers Tony.<<

 

within oneself=(1) what one thinks of ones-self (2)what others think of

ones-self(3)what actually is the only ones-self.

 

Amongst the three classification of an ordinary normal human being with no

personality dis-orders,i think you have given an awesome explanation.

 

but,i am beginning to think,what if one has multiple-personality,inherent within

them,what then triggers the ego?

 

i think this ego will vanish,when the true self realises as the only true self

existing in universe.=brahman.

 

suresh.