Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Namaste, This is sort of a monologue I have observed in my intellect/mind. Comment/criticize/share your thoughts if you like. To be - requires no effort. I am the silence already. Then what is the problem ? What is to be sought ? Mind seems to be the culprit. I am silence but this noisy equipment called mind tells me that I am the noise . Mind keeps presenting all sorts of ideas for action and if nothing it will present doubts. So what do I do ? Who is the I - who wants to do something ? This " I " seems to be the buddhi with some shraddha in scriptures and faith in sages who have expounded/still expounding Vedantic teaching. Should I really try to do anything ? If A is sick, then does B take medicines ? No. Then, why should I try to do something about this mind. Let this deluded mind which claims many things to be " I " and mine - be deluded. Why should'nt I just " Be " . By doing, I can never " be " . regards, Shailendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 shalilendra ji : " summa iiru " is an high philosophical utterance.The inner chatter exists,and only your " i " can tame your " i " nobody or no-body can tame it!!. suresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 summa irukka mudiyuma? m.namasivayam --- On Sun, 19/7/09, sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman wrote: sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman Re: Being and Doing advaitin Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 10:17 PM shalilendra ji : " summa iiru " is an high philosophical utterance.The inner chatter exists,and only your " i " can tame your " i " nobody or no-body can tame it!!. suresh. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 " Madathil Rajendran Nair " <madathilnair wrote: > The real issue is 'to be or not to be'. Nairji, Namaste, how are you? Hamlet: " ...To be or not to be, that is the question. " To be AND not to be, that is the answer . (Hope you brought your umbrella where you are) Yours in Bhagavan, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 mind is universe brain can able to link with the universe m.namasivayam --- On Sun, 19/7/09, shaileshbajpai <shaileshbajpai wrote: shaileshbajpai <shaileshbajpai Re: Being and Doing advaitin Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 10:22 PM dear I, forgive me for my comments. who is writing this post, it is the mind, you are right that mind is culprit but it is the mind who wants to know the silence. therefore, we have treat the mind so that he can know the silence.advaitin@ s.com, " bhatnagar_shailend ra " <bhatnagar_shailend ra wrote: > > Namaste, > This is sort of a monologue I have observed in my intellect/mind. Comment/criticize/ share your thoughts if you like. > To be - requires no effort. I am the silence already. Then what is the problem ? What is to be sought ? Mind seems to be the culprit. I am silence but this noisy equipment called mind tells me that I am the noise . Mind keeps presenting all sorts of ideas for action and if nothing it will present doubts. So what do I do ? Who is the I - who wants to do something ? This " I " seems to be the buddhi with some shraddha in scriptures and faith in sages who have expounded/still expounding Vedantic teaching. Should I really try to do anything ? If A is sick, then does B take medicines ? No. Then, why should I try to do something about this mind. Let this deluded mind which claims many things to be " I " and mine - be deluded. Why should'nt I just " Be " . By doing, I can never " be " . > > regards, > Shailendra > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Hello Shailesh, Great self dialogue.... equally great contemplation. IHMO, ' doing' is also the content in the being , the content being packaged in the point of view of doership. If you remove the package, the 'doing' becomes a ' happening'. Doership is an obstacle. To be aware of this, and to have internalised this realisation is all that matters. This is the sadhana. I was also struck by this obstacle for a number of years. Of course a tremendous effort and a great attention is needed to veer the point of view to 'happening.' Thanks for the stimulus. Regards Dilip Dhopavkar On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:31 PM, bhatnagar_shailendra < bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: > > > Namaste, > This is sort of a monologue I have observed in my intellect/mind. > Comment/criticize/share your thoughts if you like. > To be - requires no effort. I am the silence already. Then what is the > problem ? What is to be sought ? Mind seems to be the culprit. I am silence > but this noisy equipment called mind tells me that I am the noise . Mind > keeps presenting all sorts of ideas for action and if nothing it will > present doubts. So what do I do ? Who is the I - who wants to do something ? > This " I " seems to be the buddhi with some shraddha in scriptures and faith > in sages who have expounded/still expounding Vedantic teaching. Should I > really try to do anything ? If A is sick, then does B take medicines ? No. > Then, why should I try to do something about this mind. Let this deluded > mind which claims many things to be " I " and mine - be deluded. Why should'nt > I just " Be " . By doing, I can never " be " . > > regards, > Shailendra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Dear Shailendra-ji, If you truly know all this to be true, then there is no problem. You already are That - there is nothing you can do or need do to 'become' That. There is only a problem if this is just what you think, or have read, or have understood to be what others are saying. If that is the case, then it is not that you need to do something *to* the mind. What needs to be done is to remove the self-ignorance that remains in *in* the mind by using the mind, with discrimination and reason, to clear the obstruction to clear seeing. This process usually requires a guru, scriptures etc. Best wishes, Dennis advaitin [advaitin ] On Behalf Of bhatnagar_shailendra Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:02 PM advaitin Being and Doing << >> Should I really try to do anything ? If A is sick, then does B take medicines ? No. Then, why should I try to do something about this mind. Let this deluded mind which claims many things to be " I " and mine - be deluded. Why should'nt I just " Be " . By doing, I can never " be " . regards, Shailendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 namah sivayam ji : 'summa iirundale podum' the chatter will subside,sarvam ramanappa arul. suresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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