Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Namaste All, In view of recent discussions hoped a little joke won't hurt. A pair of twins are making time in the womb of their mother after almost eight and a half months of waiting. They start to get a little anxious about the forecoming future. One of them asks the other: " Do you think there is life after birth? " The other, stopping sucking his thumb, responds: " I don't know, nobody came back to tell yet " Yours in Bhagavan, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 mouna ji : In lightest vein to your joke,a reply joke >>The other, stopping sucking his thumb, responds: " I don't know, nobody came back to tell yet " << No-body=in a spirit body,we are told by the spirit world of beings...there is life after death = no-body... suresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > In lightest vein to your joke,a reply joke > >>The other, stopping sucking his thumb, responds: " I don't know, nobody came back to tell yet " << > No-body=in a spirit body,we are told by the spirit world of beings...there is life after death = no-body... Sureshji, (continuing the lighter vein... " replying the reply " , in the old vedantic discussion tradition) OOOoohh, I see... but I thought that the " spirit world of beings " implied that there is no life after death because there is no death in the first place, and why? because there is NO BIRTH in the VERY very first place either!!! Yours in Bhagavan, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 mouna ji : >>Sureshji, (continuing the lighter vein... " replying the reply " , in the old vedantic discussion tradition) OOOoohh, I see... but I thought that the " spirit world of beings " implied that there is no life after death because there is no death in the first place, and why? because there is NO BIRTH in the VERY very first place either!!!<< In a circle,where do you start or end,as its cyclic.The body dies,not the atma,as its neither beginingless nor endless.As per my understanding of the Lord's message,thru various avataric manisfestations on sarva lokas....thats why pithru karyam is adviced by our ancients,even thru a proxy.....as explained by Mahaswami of Kanchi,thru his epic book 'deivathin kural'..... so ultimate goal for a spiritual aspirant is=moksham from samsaram=release from repeated birth & death of bodies,mind & soul.... suresh... p.s. mouna means=quietness,but i sure do enjoy your messages,thnx... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > so ultimate goal for a spiritual aspirant is=moksham from samsaram Very rare indeed to agree in something in these kind of discussions, but I fully agree with this happy ending. As the poet once said: " All's well that ends well " ! Pranams, Sureshji Yours in Bhagavan, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 hare krishna namaskarams even though a joke carries a deep meaning .neither the babies know from where they came in to the womb or where afterbirth. well life continues in various forms and stages and the only solution from this cycle is to get rid of the vasanas through self knowledge in this life. may lord krishna bless us all to reach him in this life itself. baskaran Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 advaitin , " Mouna " <maunna wrote: > > > " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > so ultimate goal for a spiritual aspirant is=moksham from samsaram > > Very rare indeed to agree in something in these kind of discussions, but I fully agree with this happy ending. As the poet once said: > " All's well that ends well " ! > > Pranams, Sureshji > > Yours in Bhagavan, > Mouna > Namaste, Nisargadatta Maharaj's suggestion to read the Gita from the point of view of Krishna (Krishna Consciousness) is an eye opener...Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > Nisargadatta Maharaj's suggestion to read the Gita from the point of view of Krishna (Krishna Consciousness) is an eye opener...Cheers Tony. > Agreed Tony, and by the way, is there any other position to take, ever, in this advaita business of Reality? M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 " Mouna " <maunna wrote: > > Agreed Tony, and by the way, is there any other position to take, ever, in this advaita business of Reality? > I meant to say: is there any other position to take, besides this one, ever, in this advaita business of Reality? M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 om,to that bhaskar ji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Namaste: The real question then is " How to read Gita from the point of view of Krishna? " The answer is quite subtle and Gita suggests: (1) S (Yes) - Sraddha (Faith and conviction with determination) (2) S (Yes) - Sadhana (Efforts through Yoga for mind purification) (3) S (Yes) - Siddhi ( Moksha or liberation) This may explain why we end our prayers with 3 times " Om Shanthi " First Om Shanthi to remind Shraddha Second Om Shanthi to practice Yoga Final Om Shanthi to recognize the Brahman Gita in several chapters and verses provide us the clue to acquire the virtues that will enable us to recognize the Brahman. The ongoing Gita Satsangh on Chapter 14 provides the list of those virtues through verses # 23 to 25. Lord Krishna describes the conduct that can be noticeable to anyone through these verses. One who is indifferent in every situation like a witness to an event and who is equipoised and undisturbed by any interaction with the three gunas that might present itself such as happiness or misery, realizes that the gunas themselves are responsible for the effects. Such a jiva understands by discriminative reflection that the atma or immortal soul has no connection whatsoever with the gunas or their effects. Such a jiva is firmly situated and unwavering. To whom pleasure and pain are non-different to the jiva who is thus situated abiding in the atma in one's eternal nature. To such a jiva a clod of earth, a precious stone and a nugget of gold are all simply manifestations of the same prakriti or the material substratum pervading physical existence. Such a jiva considers all of equal worth. Also to whom agreeable and disagreeable things which are the causes of pleasure and pain are seen as the same. That perfect Yogi is indifferent to the bestowal of both praise and ridicule. He (she) stays in the balanced state both in honor or dishonor and treats friend or foe alike. Those who have transcended the three gunas renounce the rewards of all actions producing visible or invisible results. They exhibit bhakti or exclusive loving devotional service to the Supreme Lord. In conclusion, we should recognize the fact that " All will end well provided we take all necessary steps and efforts with determination, strong faith and conviction. " With my warm regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > advaitin , " Mouna " <maunna@> wrote: > > > > > > " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > so ultimate goal for a spiritual aspirant is=moksham from samsaram > > > > Very rare indeed to agree in something in these kind of discussions, but I fully agree with this happy ending. As the poet once said: > > " All's well that ends well " ! > > > > > Namaste, > > Nisargadatta Maharaj's suggestion to read the Gita from the point of view of Krishna (Krishna Consciousness) is an eye opener...Cheers Tony. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 life arter birth is pre programmed m.namasivayam --- On Tue, 4/8/09, Ram Chandran <ramvchandran wrote: Ram Chandran <ramvchandran Re: Life after birth advaitin Tuesday, 4 August, 2009, 5:10 PM Namaste: The real question then is " How to read Gita from the point of view of Krishna? " The answer is quite subtle and Gita suggests: (1) S (Yes) - Sraddha (Faith and conviction with determination) (2) S (Yes) - Sadhana (Efforts through Yoga for mind purification) (3) S (Yes) - Siddhi ( Moksha or liberation) This may explain why we end our prayers with 3 times " Om Shanthi " First Om Shanthi to remind Shraddha Second Om Shanthi to practice Yoga Final Om Shanthi to recognize the Brahman Gita in several chapters and verses provide us the clue to acquire the virtues that will enable us to recognize the Brahman. The ongoing Gita Satsangh on Chapter 14 provides the list of those virtues through verses # 23 to 25.. Lord Krishna describes the conduct that can be noticeable to anyone through these verses. One who is indifferent in every situation like a witness to an event and who is equipoised and undisturbed by any interaction with the three gunas that might present itself such as happiness or misery, realizes that the gunas themselves are responsible for the effects. Such a jiva understands by discriminative reflection that the atma or immortal soul has no connection whatsoever with the gunas or their effects. Such a jiva is firmly situated and unwavering. To whom pleasure and pain are non-different to the jiva who is thus situated abiding in the atma in one's eternal nature. To such a jiva a clod of earth, a precious stone and a nugget of gold are all simply manifestations of the same prakriti or the material substratum pervading physical existence. Such a jiva considers all of equal worth. Also to whom agreeable and disagreeable things which are the causes of pleasure and pain are seen as the same. That perfect Yogi is indifferent to the bestowal of both praise and ridicule. He (she) stays in the balanced state both in honor or dishonor and treats friend or foe alike. Those who have transcended the three gunas renounce the rewards of all actions producing visible or invisible results. They exhibit bhakti or exclusive loving devotional service to the Supreme Lord. In conclusion, we should recognize the fact that " All will end well provided we take all necessary steps and efforts with determination, strong faith and conviction. " With my warm regards, Ram Chandran advaitin@ s.com, " Tony OClery " <aoclery > wrote: > > advaitin@ s.com, " Mouna " <maunna@> wrote: > > > > > > " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman@ > wrote: > > > > > > so ultimate goal for a spiritual aspirant is=moksham from samsaram > > > > Very rare indeed to agree in something in these kind of discussions, but I fully agree with this happy ending. As the poet once said: > > " All's well that ends well " ! > > > > > Namaste, > > Nisargadatta Maharaj's suggestion to read the Gita from the point of view of Krishna (Krishna Consciousness) is an eye opener...Cheers Tony. > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 As long as we write or speak about advaitham,then its not advaitham.So,i am going to keep quiet,suddenly this dawned on to me like a flash.Mounam Sambhandam. suresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 As long as we write or speak about advaitham,then its not advaitham.So,i am going to keep quiet,suddenly this dawned on to me like a flash.Mounam Sambhandam. praNAms Hare Krishna So, prabhuji you are saying here, shankara, who wrote volumes & volumes on advaita is not advaita, ramaNa, who spoke advaita is not advaita :-)) I was wondering what would have been the fate of advaitins, like us had these noble souls maintained that great 'silence' :-)) Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr wrote: > > As long as we write or speak about advaitham,then its not advaitham.So,i > am going to keep quiet,suddenly this dawned on to me like a flash.Mounam > Sambhandam. > praNAms > Hare Krishna > So, prabhuji you are saying here, shankara, who wrote volumes & volumes on > advaita is not advaita, ramaNa, who spoke advaita is not advaita :-)) I > was wondering what would have been the fate of advaitins, like us had > these noble souls maintained that great 'silence' :-)) > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > bhaskar > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr wrote: > > As long as we write or speak about advaitham,then its not advaitham.So,i > am going to keep quiet,suddenly this dawned on to me like a flash.Mounam > Sambhandam. > praNAms > Hare Krishna > So, prabhuji you are saying here, shankara, who wrote volumes & volumes on > advaita is not advaita, ramaNa, who spoke advaita is not advaita :-)) I > was wondering what would have been the fate of advaitins, like us had > these noble souls maintained that great 'silence' :-)) > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > bhaskar > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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