Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dear Madhava, Hope you all reached safely on Sunday evening. Yes the story is eye opening but I found out from my own life which I believe we all need three things in this world for anything to happen without any exception. 1. Human effort without which nothing happens 2. Every thing has it's own time and one has to wait for the time and the waiting time depends upon ones own purva janma sukrutam. 3. Without the Grace of Brahman whatever it is, even a leaf cannot move. These three things are equally important any thing to happen in this creation. Thank you for sharing the story with me. With Love to all, Pakirareddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Pranams, I heard this story and I do not know the origin. But I really like it so thought of sharing it with you. It is deep winter, and in the middle of the night, a monk lost his way in a Forrest.. He is feeling hungry and thirsty his body is longing for warmth. He is wandering and wandering just with an anticipation of finding a home. Finally he notices a flicker of light yonder. He walks swiftly to find that the light is coming out of a window of a small hut. He goes to the hut and knocks the door. After sometime the door gets opened. An old lady opens the door. She looks at the monk and slam shuts the door immediately saying " I HAVE NOTHING FOR YOU MONK " . And it is concluded " That is faith " . (You can go there with all anticipation but there is no guarantee... This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own form. - Katha) Love & Light, Madhava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dear Pakirareddy garu, 1. and 3. are opposing each other, I think. Am I wrong? Krishnamurthy ________________________________ " pakirareddy " <pakirareddy advaitin Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:11:17 PM Re: A story on faith Dear Madhava, Hope you all reached safely on Sunday evening. Yes the story is eye opening but I found out from my own life which I believe we all need three things in this world for anything to happen without any exception. 1. Human effort without which nothing happens 2. Every thing has it's own time and one has to wait for the time and the waiting time depends upon ones own purva janma sukrutam. 3. Without the Grace of Brahman whatever it is, even a leaf cannot move. These three things are equally important any thing to happen in this creation. Thank you for sharing the story with me. With Love to all, Pakirareddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Dear KrishnaMurthy garu, Thank you for your kind comment. I do not think 1 & 3 are opposite but I should say they compliment each other. If I close my eyes and leave it to Brahman, nothing will happen but misery & frustration. That is the power of humans due to Atma present in themselves which is our true self which is part of ParamAthma. With kind regards, Dr.Pakirareddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 advaitin , " Madhava Turumella " <madhava wrote: > > This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by > intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained > by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own > form. - Katha) Hari OM! Thanks Madhava garu for sharing. Always learn something from your posts. This reminds me of Tapovanam's words I like much: ------------------------- " If by studying the scriptures one can become a sannyasin, by counting the King's money one must become a millionaire. " - Swami Tapovanam ------------------------- Hari OM! -Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Reddy garu, Thanks for the answer. I want to discuss further on the subject if it is ok with you. You said " If I close my eyes and leave it to Brahman, nothing will happen but misery and frustration " . Bhagavad Githa (Ch3 Sk5) says: " Na hi kascitksanamapi jaatu tisthatyakarmakrt kaaryate hyavasah karma sarvah prakrtijairgunaih " (None can ever remain inactive even for a moment; all are made to act helplessly indeed by the qualities born of prakrti.) I think it is only academic statement that we can sit closing our eyes, doing nothing. Depending upon the qualities (gunas) of an individual, he is bounded by the actions with out any option, including sitting quite, which by itself is an action. At a minimum one has to breath, which in itself is an action. I think it is to our advantage to think that there is nothing in the hands of an individual in terms of " doing " or " not doing " at spiritual level. Of course at social level and survival plane, this might bring a clear side effect. One has to be careful not to mix up the situations. Regards, Krishnamurthy ________________________________ " pakirareddy " <pakirareddy advaitin Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:37:07 PM Re: A story on faith Dear KrishnaMurthy garu, Thank you for your kind comment. I do not think 1 & 3 are opposite but I should say they compliment each other. If I close my eyes and leave it to Brahman, nothing will happen but misery & frustration. That is the power of humans due to Atma present in themselves which is our true self which is part of ParamAthma. With kind regards, Dr.Pakirareddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Dear KrishnaMurthy garu, I agree with the effect of Gunas. If What you said is right which contradicts the Mahavakya 'Aham Brahmasmi'! With Love to all on this magic day of SriKrishna JanmAshtami to all the creation Pakirareddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 advaitin , " Srinivas Nagulapalli " <srini_nagul wrote: advaitin , " Madhava Turumella " <madhava@> wrote: > > This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by > intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained > by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own > form. - Katha) Hari OM! Thanks Madhava garu for sharing. Always learn something from your posts. This reminds me of Tapovanam's words I like much: ------------------------- " If by studying the scriptures one can become a sannyasin, by counting the King's money one must become a millionaire. " - Swami Tapovanam ------------------------- Hari OM! -Srinivas --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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