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namaste bhaskarji,

 

You may be able to reconcile such details in the Veda by taking them to be

anuvada (restatement). The vedas serve as a pramana only to those

revelations that are beyond the ken of sensory data (pratyaksha anumanadi

pramanas). We can easily view matters that deal with things we already know

of as anuvada and those that are eulogistic as arthavada. Therefore the

apaureshatva of the vedas are not shaken by anuvada.

 

2009/9/1 Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr

 

> praNAms

> Hare Krishna

>

> One of my cybernet friends, expressed his observation on vedas'

> aparusheyatva. I'd like to get the clarification on this from the learned

> prabhuji-s of this forum. Here is his observation :

>

> // quote //

> What puzzled me was that the veda also had intimate knowledge of the

> names,culture,topography etc of a very small place in the universe called

> bhArata-varsha. This was proof to me that veda was " authored " by Indians!

> Had it been unauthored and eternal, it will likely not show affinity

> towards India will it? Why do you think veda has no names like John and

> Peter? Why do you think it makes no reference to places such as Europe and

> Africa? Why do you think it talks of ganga and sarasvati and not of Nile

> or Amazon which are even bigger rivers? The proper nouns in the veda are

> specific to our culture and it is the proof that it is not eternal and

> unauthored. Veda as knowledge is eternal but as a text it appears to be a

> divinely inspired content in accordance with place and time in which it

> was revealed. If veda were to be revealed in another galaxy in another

> planet how will they make sense of the names

> in it? Obviously, if the veda is revealed there, its spiritual content

> will be the same, but not the textual content.

> // unquote //

> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

> bhaskar

> PS : I've taken his concurrence to cross post his mail to other forum &

> I've marked a copy of this mail to him also.

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You may be able to reconcile such details in the Veda by taking them to be

anuvada (restatement). The vedas serve as a pramana only to those

revelations that are beyond the ken of sensory data (pratyaksha anumanadi

pramanas). We can easily view matters that deal with things we already

know

of as anuvada and those that are eulogistic as arthavada. Therefore the

apaureshatva of the vedas are not shaken by anuvada.

 

praNAms Sri Kathirasan prabhuji

Hare Krishna

 

Yes you are right veda-s are dealing with a subject which is beyond the

reach of pratyaksha & anumAna. Shankara too makes this point clear in

sUtra bhAshya (2-1-6) rUpAdyabhAvAt hi nAyamarthaH pratyakshasya gOcharaH,

lingAdhyabhAvAccha na anumAnAdeenAM, AgamamAtra samadhigamya eva tu

ayamarthaH dharmavat'. Here shankara says for brahma jignAsa, neither

pratyaksha nor anumAna is helpful, like in dharma jignAsa, only shAstra

/Agama is the means. But IMHO, by this, we cannot establish the

'aparusheyatva' of scriptures...For that matter even in paurusheya smruti

texts too we can find plently of revelations which are beyond the reach of

sensory data.

 

Hope I am not stretching this beyond its scope.

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

 

 

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