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advaitin , anupam srivatsav <anupam.srivatsav wrote:

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> Dear List Members,

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> Namaste to all.

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> Can anyone explain " Ahamgrahopasana " in a detailed way?

>

> With regards,

> Anupam.

 

Dear Anupam-ji,

One form of meditation is that with symbols (pratika). For example, a linga is

meditated on as Lord Shiva, or a salagrama as Lord Vishnu.

Another kind is meditation on a picture or image of any deity. In these

meditations the meditator thinks of himself as different from the object of

meditation.

In ahamgraha upasana, the meditator meditates on Brahman, thinking of himself as

Brahman.

S.N.Sastri

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Dear Sri Sastri Ji,

 

Namaste.

 

> One form of meditation is that with symbols (pratika). For example, a linga

is meditated on as Lord Shiva, or a salagrama as Lord Vishnu.

> Another kind is meditation on a picture or image of any deity. In these

meditations the meditator thinks of himself as different from the object of

meditation.

> In ahamgraha upasana, the meditator meditates on Brahman, thinking of himself

as Brahman.

 

Thanks a lot for your quick response. Is there any scriptural

references to this?

 

With regards,

Anupam.

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advaitin , anupam srivatsav <anupam.srivatsav wrote:

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> Dear Sri Sastri Ji,

> Thanks a lot for your quick response. Is there any scriptural

> references to this?

>

> With regards,

> Anupam.

 

Dera Shri Anupamam,

This term does not appear in the upanishads, but it is used in vedantic

literature. In Swami Gambhirananda's English translation of Chandogya up.

bhAshya, the various types of upasana are mentioned in the Introduction and this

is one of them.

Best wishes,

S.N.Sastri

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Dear Sri Shastri Ji,

Namaste.

 

Thanks a lot for the reply and a pointer.

 

> Dera Shri Anupamam,

> This term does not appear in the upanishads, but it is used in vedantic

literature. In Swami Gambhirananda's English translation of Chandogya up.

bhAshya, the various types of upasana are mentioned in the Introduction and this

is one of them.

 

With regards,

Anupam.

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Dear Sri Sastri ji,

Namaste.

 

> Dera Shri Anupamam,

> This term does not appear in the upanishads, but it is used in vedantic

> literature. In Swami Gambhirananda's English translation of Chandogya up.

> bhAshya, the various types of upasana are mentioned in the Introduction and

> this is one of them.

 

 

I was not having Swami Gambhirananda's translation on Chandogya

Upanishad. When I enquired also, i came to know that Chandogya and

Brhdaranyaka were not translated by him. It seems he has translated

other eight upanishads + Shvetasvatara Upanishad.

 

With regards,

Anupam.

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advaitin , anupam srivatsav <anupam.srivatsav wrote:

> I was not having Swami Gambhirananda's translation on Chandogya

> Upanishad. When I enquired also, i came to know that Chandogya and

> Brhdaranyaka were not translated by him. It seems he has translated

> other eight upanishads + Shvetasvatara Upanishad.

>

> With regards,

> Anupam.

 

Dear Anupam,

Swami Gambhirananda's translation of Ch. up. with Bhashya has been published by

Advaita Ashrama, Calcutta, which is part of Ramakrishna Mission. I have got the

book with me. Probably it is out of stock or out of print now.

S.N.Sastri

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Dera Shri Anupamam,

This term does not appear in the upanishads, but it is used in vedantic

literature. In Swami Gambhirananda's English translation of Chandogya up.

bhAshya, the various types of upasana are mentioned in the Introduction

and this is one of them.

praNAms Hare Krishna

Yes, the term 'ahaMgrahOpAsana' is not used exclusively in the vedAnta.

But in tradition, we say, chAdOgya's shAndilya vidya (I think in 3rd

chApter) and 'hArdabrahmOpAsana' or dahara upAsana (8th chapter ??) both

are 'ahaMgrahOpAsana'. The result of this upAsana is brahma lOka says

somewhere by shankara because this type of upAsana is 'kartru tantra'.

Just some additional thoughts.

HariHari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

 

 

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advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr wrote:

>> Yes, the term 'ahaMgrahOpAsana' is not used exclusively in the vedAnta.

> But in tradition, we say, chAdOgya's shAndilya vidya (I think in 3rd

> chApter) and 'hArdabrahmOpAsana' or dahara upAsana (8th chapter ??) both

> are 'ahaMgrahOpAsana'. The result of this upAsana is brahma lOka says

> somewhere by shankara because this type of upAsana is 'kartru tantra'.

> Just some additional thoughts.

 

Namaste,

 

Sw. Sivananda (Founder,Divine Life Society, Rishikesh, has this to say:

 

http://www.thecentre.co.za/articles/1.%20YOGA/Swami%20Sivananda/Self-Knowledge.d\

oc

 

" ...Upasana is of two kinds viz., Prateekopasana and Ahamgrahopasana. In the

first kind, Prateeka or symbol is used for meditation. In the second kind,

Prateeka or symbol is used for his very self as the object of meditation. The

previous one is the Bhakta's method. The latter one belongs to the non-dual

Vedantins. One who has outgrown the first kind of Upasana is recommended to take

up the higher Ahamgrahopasana wherein he meditates on his own Atman as his own

pure Self..... "

 

In the book, 'The Supreme Knowledge Revealed through Vidyas in the

Upanishads', by Sw. Brahmananda (a disciple of Sw. Sivananda), (Publ. Divine

Life Society, 1990 - ISBN81-7052-074-6), has mentioned the 100 vidyas, among

which are:

 

1 ahaM brahmAsmi mahAvAkya vidyA p. 355

 

2 dahara vidyA p. 325

 

3 shANDilya vidyA p. 256

 

4 hRRidaya vidyA p. 464

 

He has given detailed references too numerous to enumerate here.

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

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Namaste,

 

advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh wrote:

> " ...Upasana is of two kinds viz.,

 

For this topic the following footnote from the book 'Vivekachudamani with an

English Translation of the Sanskrit Commentary of Shri H.H. Chandrasekhara

Bharathi', on shloka 33 1/2 (svaatmatattvaanusandhaanaM bhaktirityapare

jaguH), page 47 is very relevant:

 

upaasana is of three kinds:

 

1. a~ngaavabodhopaasana: in which some person or thing is worshipped or

meditated as a limb of a rite as where a kUrcha or sacred grass is thought

as a diety invoked on it (asmin kuurche brahmaaNamaavaaahayaami);

 

2. pratiikopaasana: as where an idol or picture is worshipped as a god;

 

3. ahamgrahopaasana: in which the worshippeer himself is equated with a

diety as in 'shivoham' or 'soham'.

 

praNAms to all advaitins

Ramakrishna

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advaitin , " uramakrsna " <uramakrishna wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh@> wrote:

> > " ...Upasana is of two kinds viz.,

>

> For this topic the following footnote from the book 'Vivekachudamani with an

> English Translation of the Sanskrit Commentary of Shri H.H. Chandrasekhara

> Bharathi', on shloka 33 1/2 (svaatmatattvaanusandhaanaM bhaktirityapare

> jaguH), page 47 is very relevant:

>

> upaasana is of three kinds:

>

> 1. a~ngaavabodhopaasana: in which some person or thing is worshipped or

> meditated as a limb of a rite as where a kUrcha or sacred grass is thought

> as a diety invoked on it (asmin kuurche brahmaaNamaavaaahayaami);

>

> 2. pratiikopaasana: as where an idol or picture is worshipped as a god;

>

> 3. ahamgrahopaasana: in which the worshippeer himself is equated with a

> diety as in 'shivoham' or 'soham'.

>

> praNAms to all advaitins

> Ramakrishna

 

 

Namaste.

 

The 'aham-grahopasana' is prescribed in the Upanishad itself, although in an

indirect manner. In the famous portion of the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad where

the 'Aham Brahma asmi' occurs (1.4.10), the Upanishad criticizes he who worships

a deity as something different from himself:

 

'atha yo anyAm devatAm upAste, " anyo'sau anyo'hamasmi " iti, na sa veda. yathaa

pashurEvam sa devaanAm'

 

//He who contemplates on a deity as 'the deity is different and I am different'

he does not know (he is in ignorance). He is verily a head of cattle to the

deva-s'.//

 

Thus, by way of depracating a worship with a notion of difference between the

worshipper and the worshipped, the Upanishad is exhorting us to obliterate the

difference. This 'end' is possible only when one practices the worship without

difference, even while being conscious of the (unreal) difference. In the

smArta bhakti tradition this verse is chanted at the commencement of a formal

puja, worship:

 

'deho devAlayaH prokto jIvo devaH sanAtanaH |

tyajedajnAna-nirmAlyam so'ham bhAvEna pUjayEt ||'

 

Meaning and explanation:

 

The body is verily a temple and the indwelling jIva, soul, is the Eternal,

Ancient, deity there in the temple. When one commences the puja he first

discards the flowers placed on the deity on the previous day/occasion. This

'old' flower/s is called 'nirmAlyam'. In the present context this 'nirmaalyam'

is nothing but anAdi ajnAna, ignorance (He is different and I am different).

Then, how is this nirmAlyam discarded? It is by consciously bringing the

bhAvanA 'I am He/That'. The realization of identity is accomplished by this a

priori practice of entertaining the bhAvanA 'I am He'.

 

Another famous instance of 'aham grahopasana' is in the dhyAna shloka of Sri

LalitA sahasra Naama. In the shloka commencing with the words: 'aruNAm

karuNAtarangi.........' the ending quarter is: 'ahamityEva vibhAvayE bhavAnIm'

(I contemplate Mother BhavAni as my self).

 

'devo bhUtvA devam yajEt' (Having 'become' the deity, worship the deity} is

another instance.

 

Saint Mira Bai sang: Lord Krishna, dye my garments with the Krishna-colour.

Someone else sang: I shall apply the kAjal of Krishna to my eyes. I shall apply

the Mehndi of Krishna colour to my hands and feet. The idea of applying

vibhUti, chandanam, wearing rudrAksham, tulsi maala, etc. while puja, japam,

etc. is to bring about the feeling of 'I am He'/'He is not different from me'.

 

The crux of 'ahamgrahopAsana' is: contemplating identity while still not

possessing the conviction of identity. Once the conviction arises unshakably

there is no longer ahamgrahopasana; there is clean Realization, sAkshAtkAra.

 

Om Tat Sat

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advaitin , " uramakrsna " <uramakrishna wrote:

>

>

> For this topic the following footnote from the book 'Vivekachudamani with an

> English Translation of the Sanskrit Commentary of Shri H.H. Chandrasekhara

> Bharathi', on shloka 33 1/2 (svaatmatattvaanusandhaanaM bhaktirityapare

> jaguH), page 47 is very relevant:

>

> upaasana is of three kinds:

 

 

Namaste,

 

The text is on-line at:

 

http://www.srisharada.com/vivekachudamani.htm

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

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advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh wrote:

> The text is on-line at:

> http://www.srisharada.com/vivekachudamani.htm

 

 

Namaste Shri Sunder-ji,

 

Thanks for the valuable link (again!). I am sure that keeping the

book online would help every one understand the crest-jewel

a little more (not forgetting that it would make it easy for referring

quickly).

 

The mail of the webmaster

webmaster

Seems to be bouncing. Can you kindly direct me to the owners.

 

praNAm-s and thanks again

Ramakrishna

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om,

How is that in this link, certain files of vivekchudamani are not highlighted

,so that we could not get those pdf files

thanks

 

uday vaidya

 

 

 

 

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uramakrsna <uramakrishna

advaitin

Tuesday, 8 September, 2009 21:58:14

Re: Aham Grahopasana

 

 

advaitin@ s.com, " sunderh " <sunderh > wrote:

> The text is on-line at:

> http://www.srishara da.com/vivekachu damani.htm

 

Namaste Shri Sunder-ji,

 

Thanks for the valuable link (again!). I am sure that keeping the

book online would help every one understand the crest-jewel

a little more (not forgetting that it would make it easy for referring

quickly).

 

The mail of the webmaster

webmaster@srisharad a.com

Seems to be bouncing. Can you kindly direct me to the owners.

 

praNAm-s and thanks again

Ramakrishna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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