Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Dear Shyamji, This is in continuation of my previous post. Shri Shankara has stated in his bhAShya on Br.up.4.4.6.--- *tasmaat avidyaanivr.ttimaatre mokshavyavahaaraH-------sarpaadinivr.ttiH. * “Therefore, as we have already said, the cessation of ignorance alone is what is known as liberation, like the disappearance of the snake, for instance, from the rope when the wrong notion about its existence has been eradicated”. * * The cessation of ignorance is simultaneous with the rise of Self-knowledge. Thus liberation is simultaneous with Self-knowledge. One of the places where this has been clearly stated is the following passage in the bhAShya on brahma sutra 1.1.4:-- (Translation of Swami Gambhirananda). “The following texts show liberation as coming immediately after the knowledge of brahman; and thereby they deny any activity in the interval. (Here the word anantaram has been translated as immediately after, but it actually means- without any interval or antaram). “Anyone who knows brahman becomes brahman” (muND. 3.2.19), “ When that brahman, the basis of all causes and effects, becomes known all the results of his actions become exhausted” (muND. 2.2.8), “One who knows the Bliss (that is the very nature) of brahman ceases to have any fear from anything” (tai. 2.9), “It knew only Itself as, “I am brahman”, thereby It became all” (br.up.1.4.10), etc”. Thus it is clear that there is no interval between knowledge and liberation as you have assumed. This is well known as a fundamental theory of Shankara. Shri Shankara has clearly stated in the statement from taitt. up 1.11 which I had previously quoted, that persons belonging to all Ashramas are entitled to knowledge, which is the same as mukti. This cannot be dismissed as dealing only with exceptions as you have done. According to Shankara, shUdras are not entitled to sannyAsa. But, as pointed out by Bhaskarji, Shankara says in Apashudra adhikaraNa that shUdras are also entitled to knowledge. This itself shows that sannyAsa is not an essential condition for liberation. No doubt, sannyAsa is of great help because a gRihastha has many duties and distractions. Shankara says in muND. up that it is difficult for gRihasthas to attain Self-knowledge. But he does not deny that possibility. Best wishes, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 === JKrishnamurti.org - Daily Quote === Behind the screen of words It is important to see, is it not?, that no one can give us freedom from the conflict of relationship. We can hide behind the screen of words, or follow a teacher, or run to a church, or lose ourselves in a cinema or a book, or keep on attending talks; but it is only when the fundamental process of thinking is uncovered through awareness in relationship that it is possible to understand and be free of that friction which we instinctively seek to avoid. Most of us use relationship as a means of escape from ourselves, from our own loneliness, from our own inward uncertainty and poverty, and so we cling to the outer things of relationship, which become very important to us. But if, instead of escaping through relationship, we can look into relationship as a mirror and see very clearly, without any prejudice, exactly what is, then that very perception brings about a transformation of what is, without any effort to transform it. There is nothing to transform about a fact; it is wh at it is. But we approach the fact with hesitation, with fear, with a sense of prejudice, and so we are always acting upon the fact and therefore never perceiving the fact as it is. When we see the fact as it is, then that very fact is the truth which resolves the problem. The Collected Works, Vol. VI - 207 _____________ DailyQuote mailing list To : go to http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/rss/ To : go to http://www.kfa.org/dq-remove.php sekhar --- On Thu, 17/9/09, S.N. Sastri <sn.sastri wrote: S.N. Sastri <sn.sastri tyagena eke amrutatvam advaitin Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 7:35 PM Junk Score: 3 out of 10 (below your Auto Allow threshold) | Approve sender | Block sender | Block domain From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! http://in./trynew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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