Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Satsanghis... May the Light of Truth burn effulgent every moment in your hearts! The introduction below was written for us by our dear Shri Ramji, to prepare us for the next Chapter of the Holy Gita. My namaskarams to him for his efforts to share his knowledge with us and for providing us with this forum to study the Holy Gita in this way. ---------- Chapter 16: Division of Attributes: Divine and Demonic The Sixteenth Chapter of the Bhagavadgita tells us that it is our duty to work in co-operation with the universal power of integration - the Divine (Daiva), and not the (Devil) Asura. The Asura, or the devilish, the demonical power, is that which pulls us out of ourselves, drives us away from the Self, takes us away from our own Center, makes the Self the non-self, and converts us into objects while we are the Subject in ourselves. This is the dark power that works in a mysterious manner, moving earth and heaven, to transform everything into an object rather than the subject with a status of its own. The soul within is the representative of the Universal in us. In the Sixteenth Chapter, we come to a novel revelation that the whole universe is a play of two forces - the ingoing and the outgoing, powers that urge themselves forward in the direction of the Center of the cosmos and those that rush outwardly in the direction of space, time and objectivity. Now, the terms good and evil, divine and devil are normally associated with ethical values and the moral assessments in life. But the Gita here rises above the ordinary Human concepts of good and evil, or even ethics and morality, and takes its stand on a highly philosophical or metaphysical ground. Everyone and everything has, thus, a twofold urge 'within itself. Often, we are inspired and roused into a feeling of self-transcendence, a movement towards a comprehensive grasp and a total experience, by an entry into the center of things. The more we move away from the center, the more are we heading towards what we call hell, in the language of the religions; and the heavenly regions are those stages of experience which tend towards the Center rather than the circumference and the space-time objectivity. These forces work perpetually, without a beginning and an end, and they work everywhere, so that nothing is free from their operations. Here, in this awful struggle between these two forces, we are caught in the middle, and it is difficult with the strength of our arms and feet to get over this mire of being pulled equally in two different directions; it is necessary to have the blessings of the Guru. In one place, the Gita itself tells us that the only alternative available for a seeker is to approach a competent guide on this path, and by questioning and self-surrender and service and intimate communion with him, attain wisdom. The Grace of God simultaneously works in the case of every seeking spirit, which ardently longs for this enlightenment. Bhagavadgita emphasizes that it is the duty of everyone to get out of the clutches of these outward-going urges which lodge the consciousness in name and form, and to endeavor to the best of one's capacity to move towards the Center which is one's essentiality, rather than the name and the form. The more we go towards the Center, and this Center is everywhere - the less is the involvement of consciousness in the name-form-complex, so that, in the ultimate reality of the universe there is no name and form. The Lord referred to two types of people: those blessed with a divine nature and those possessing a demoniac disposition. Of these, the former perform actions enjoined by the scriptures in a disinterested spirit, and thereby attain liberation. Those possessing a demoniac disposition are mostly Tamasikas who perpetrate sinful acts. Gita further classifies people by their behavior into five categories: 1 Those who follow the injunctions of the sastras and are also endowed with faith; 2 Those who lack in faith but respect the scriptural injunctions to some extent; 3 Those who endowed with faith, but unable to follow the injunctions of the sastras; 4 Those who lack in faith and lack respect for the scriptural injunctions; and 5 Those who flout the scriptural injunctions with a disdainful spirit. to be continued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Pranams Thank you Ram-ji and Radhe-ji for the introduction. When we talk of a " practical " aspect of vedanta, this particular chapter from the Gita is one of, if not the most, important. Of all the chapters in the Gita, this is the one we as seekers find parts of ourselves reflected, some on the positive side and unfortunately so, perhaps more so on the negative side as well. Why is this important? Because all the sciptural prowess one can attain is completely incapable of delivering us the goods if our inner equipment is not finely attuned to benefit from it - it is akin to being given a mirror that we eagerly look into to see - for the first time in our lives what our face looks like - and instead of the image what one sees is the thick covering of dirt on our eyeglasses - that obscures and distorts the reflection. In this situation we can incessantly try to keep bringing the same mirror or change different mirrors in front of our eyes, but the result will be unchanged - the vision will still be poor in quality. Eschewing the negative tendencies and adopting the positive ones that are so clearly laid out in this chapter by Bhagwan Krishna will provide us a lens " cleanser " - it is then up to us to use that to rub onto our mirrors and be deliberate, determined and patient as we see the results unfold. The " rubbing " is best done as a " value " meditation. We can take one value at a time, either every day or every week, and try to dwell on that value by autosuggestion - either to imbibe it, if positive, or eschew it, if negative. The value of this value-based meditation is manifold - lending greater perspective to our lives, enriching our vision, and reducing our stress as a result - all of which promote cheer to our heart and clarity to our minds - both of which serve to reflect in our antahkarnam the vision of Vedanta. It will be great if different members contribute uplifting articles, anecdotes, etc for each of these values as these are unfolded by Bhagwan Krishna. Hari OM Shri Gurubhyoh namah Shyam --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote: Radhe <shaantih Gita Satsangh...Introduction to Chapter 16 advaitin Sunday, October 18, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Satsanghis.. . May the Light of Truth burn effulgent every moment in your hearts! The introduction below was written for us by our dear Shri Ramji, to prepare us for the next Chapter of the Holy Gita. My namaskarams to him for his efforts to share his knowledge with us and for providing us with this forum to study the Holy Gita in this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Shyam <shyam_md wrote: >>>> It will be great if different members contribute uplifting articles, anecdotes, etc for each of these values as these are unfolded by Bhagwan Krishna. This is a great suggestion. Often times we would have read a scriptural work from cover to cover but our own behaviors in daily life leave a lot to be desired. It would be very helpful if members came up with suggestions (scripturally prescribed or otherwise) for cultivating the divine qualities. For example, to cultivate the notion of detachment one could talk about the notion of treating the world as wealth and ourselves as the trustees- so to safeguard and cherish and share and nurture is our duty but not to 'own' it [this was brought up by Sadaji or Shyamji in an ongoing thread]. Anger and jealousy are such common attributes, how does one learn to sublimate them? Patience and compassion are such noble virtues, how does one exercise these on a daily basis? Best Regards, Veena. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Shyam <shyam_md wrote: > > > Pranams > Thank you Ram-ji and Radhe-ji for the introduction. When we talk of a > " practical " aspect of vedanta, this particular chapter from the Gita is one > of, if not the most, important. Of all the chapters in the Gita, this is the > one we as seekers find parts of ourselves reflected, some on the positive > side and unfortunately so, perhaps more so on the negative side as well. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Namaste: Thanks Shyamji for summarizing the importance of this Chapter in the context of practical Vedanta. In the very last chapter (Chapter 15) Lord Krishna asks Arjuna to transcend from the pair of opposites and become firmly established in purity. Almost all scriptures of the world religions want the human beings to retain the quality of goodness and erase all devilish wicked thoughts and actions. When the mind gets pre-occupied with the pairs of opposites such as pleasure and pain, good and evil, hot and cold, etc., they project the egoistic sense of `Me' and `Mine.' . " Lord Krishna wisely asks Arjuna to forsake the triad of qualities and give up the sense of `Me' and `Mine.' Purity is evolved through spiritual sadhana by first transforming from Tamasik to Satvik and be a Satvik without oscillations. When the mind purification is complete the seeker will be able to transcend the non-existing pluralities. Rightly so, Gita doesn't give any time framework for this transformation. In chapter 16 Lord Krishna focuses on the two extreme postures of the pairs of opposites – the Divine and the Devilish side of the human personality. Once again the primary focus of the Sadhaka (seeker) is to retain the True Divine Nature and discard completely the Devilish side of the personality. Only after learn to retain the Divine personality, the Sadhaka will be able to transcend the self-created and non-existed pairs of opposites. Gita in the previous chapters describe the Divine virtues with greater details and how those Purushothamic (Divine) qualities will help the Sadhaka to gain peace and tranquility. Here are some key divine virtues that are stated in the scriptures for the seekers to practice: Righteousness (Honesty, Truthfulness) Telling the truth and knowing the Truth is a fundamental part of being a human being. It is the foundation of communication between each other and is the mother of trust and grandmother of respect and loyalty. An honest heart defines our integrity and tells people something about us that words simply could never express. Honesty should be expressed always for things both great and small. Anything less is deception. Honesty can be painful sometimes but is always appreciated and honored when the pain subsides. Honesty invokes trust and respect from those who have experienced or have heard of our honesty. Compassion (Love everyone and Hate none): Compassion for one another provides a foundation for healing. There are many times in life when unfortunate things happen that make us feel alone and forsaken. When we are compassionate we are sharing in a person's painful feelings and are compelled to help relieve the pain as our own. When we have this type of true heartfelt compassion and empathy for people in fragile and vulnerable times, we can help them generate all the strength and healing they need to conquer any negative situation. Our compassion will never be forgotten because we were there for them when they needed it the most. An immense sense of satisfaction and pleasure can be the only result of knowing that we made a difference in someone's life by just simply showing that we genuinely care. Awareness (Understanding): An Understanding heart openly welcomes knowledge and wisdom. Understanding the ways of the world and our role in it leads to true self-fulfillment and is quintessential to our existence. Understanding simplifies the complexities in life and leads to a fuller more satisfying life's journey. Understand the truth and live in it's full abundance. Contentment (Peace and Happiness): The reward for contentment is peace and happiness for ever! Contentment is only possible for the one who possesses the Discriminating Intellect to know the difference between the real and unreal. Those who seek the unreal (temporary) happiness will be disappointed when the happiness disappears with the time! Happiness that is everlasting is within and it can't come from external sources! Western philosophers had for some time been contemplating the notion of opposites. Anaximander posited that every element was an opposite, or connected to an opposite (for example water is cold and fire is hot). The seeker has to evolve and progress in upward movement on the ladder towards spiritual maturity. Maturity occurs as each one of the divine virtues is gradually ingrained in the personality, both as a natural and spiritual process. Additionally, there are practical conscious steps any person can engage in to invest conscious effort in developing any one of the individual virtues. There are some virtues that one can easily cultivate and nurture until they become dynamic integral parts of the personality. When we are able to comprehend or realize the nature of the human mind and how it works, we find this to be true. The dweller within the temple (the human body) is our true self. Moreover, that essential, true, pure self is the soul or spirit, which is often referred to as the Individualized Spirit. This long and arduous natural process takes place as the spirit within the human body undergoes countless experiences of evolution, in innumerable physical forms or bodies, over billions of years. It is this very process that modern scientists, especially psychologists, call the natural evolution process. However, they use the term without knowing or understanding its origin and basis. It originates from soul or spirit's existence in the lower worlds when spirit occupies a different physical body at different times in its evolution. This is based upon the Law of Cause and Effect in correspondence with the soul's use of freewill. Evolution therefore, pertains more to the soul than to the physical body. It is my personal understanding that the evolution of the physical body is dependent upon the evolution of the entity that dwells within that body. In this case, we refer to the spirit or soul. If we had no choices to make and had no freewill, we would be free from the effects of our thoughts, words, desires, and actions. We should focus upon how we use our freewill in making decisions or choices and what effects result from such choices. The development of the divine virtues is an integral part of such focus and use of freewill. Possession of these virtues has a great impact upon how we use our freewill. It influences what choices we make in life and vice versa. That is to say, how we use our free will or what choices we make in life affects the process by which we obtain divine virtues and subsequent or corresponding merits. In brief, what we do and how we do it determines what divine virtues are ingrained in our soul-mind entity or personality over a long duration. For example, if we substitute anger with tolerance and control of negative impulses, the opposing divine virtue of patience builds within our personality. If we ensure that our life is free of vanity, arrogance, self-centeredness, and self-pity, we build the divine virtue of humility in our personality. In order to build divine virtues, we must first study, learn, or observe the lives of those people who have or had such virtues. There are plenty of examples in Ramayana, Mahabharata and Puranas illustrating the outcomes of persons who possessed the Divine and Devilish virtues. The process of building divine virtues, as taught by true mystics since time immemorial, explains how these virtues naturally grow in the soul-mind relationship as one evolves on the spiritual ladder. It is the duty of the indwelling spirit to impress upon the mind the spirit's inherent true nature as a divine entity. Such impression cannot take place unless and until the human mind has passed through various stages of growth, experience, and development. The human mind must experience transformation from being a crude mind to becoming a fine mind. This theory and practice is based upon the premise that by nature, the soul (spirit) is divine. Being divine, the soul inherently possesses divine qualities but the mortal human mind has these qualities over-shadowed. Gita in chapters 16, 17 and 18 pursue describing the process of building divine virtues and realize our True Divine Nature. As we all know that the Gunas change by person and by time and all of us are bound by their influence on how we behave. Gita also provides clues to how we can improve our behavior by disciplining the body, mind and intellect. The key Divine virtues are listed below for quick reference. (By no means this list is complete) 1. Fearlessness 2. Pure heartedness 3. Wisdom to discriminate between real and unreal 4. Compassion and kindness (charity) 5. Self-restraint 6. Austerity 7. Honesty 8. Non-violence (ahimsa) 9. Truthfulness 10. Aversion to Fault finding 11. Equanimity 12. Absence of greed 13. Gentleness 14. Modesty 15. Determination We will likely learn more through the verses of chapter 16 which will be discussed in the coming weeks. With my warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , Shyam <shyam_md wrote: When we talk of a " practical " aspect of vedanta, this particular chapter from the Gita is one of, if not the most, important. Of all the chapters in the Gita, this is the one we as seekers find parts of ourselves reflected, some on the positive side and unfortunately so, perhaps more so on the negative side as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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