Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 To this effect, two pieces of verse are appended below. The first is a short stanza, about objective picturing. The second is rather longer, about space, time and continuity. praNAms Hare Krishna I changed the subject line coz. here my doubt has nothing todo with advaita vedanta :-)). And kindly bear with my utter ignorance about the linguistics of English language. Sofar, I have read somany poems/ verses written by Sri Ananda prabhuji, Sri Madathil Nair prabhuji etc. But sofar I am not able to understand 'what exactly' needs to make a poem or verse in English language !! These poems/verses are just appear to me like prose section which are arranged in multiple lines (sometimes four or sometimes three) & four or five words per line!! Is there any chandas in English language also to compose a poem or a verse?? Again my apologies for asking some odd question in Advaita forum. Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Yes. There is meter and rhyme in English poetry. You may please peruse the following link and the contents thereof for some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry#Meter Although I write poetry, I am not much skilled in rhyming. I write it the way it flows out of my mind. Most modern poets do just that. It is the content that matters more than the style. Meter and rhyme can sometimes kill poetry. Alliteration can be a bore. Best regards. Madathil Nair ___________________ advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr wrote: Sofar, I have read somany poems/ verses > written by Sri Ananda prabhuji, Sri Madathil Nair prabhuji etc. But sofar > I am not able to understand 'what exactly' needs to make a poem or verse > in English language !! These poems/verses are just appear to me like > prose section which are arranged in multiple lines (sometimes four or > sometimes three) & four or five words per line!! Is there any chandas in > English language also to compose a poem or a verse?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Nairji / Bhaskarji, Just a side note: The entire creation is a rythm of poetry which is depicted by the cosmic dance of Nataraja. It is interesting to note that Lord Ganapati (Brahmanaspati / Brihaspati or Vak-pati) is extolled as Poet of Poets (Kavim kavivam) in Ganapati Sukta. The Creation by the Creator is a Rythemic Poetry which is already comprehended by the Creator with Maya. One has to JUST LISTEN to it and tap the ecstasy of the Vedic Seers. And hence, John Keats says " A think of Beauty is Joy for ever " . regs, sriram advaitin , " madathilnair " <madathilnair wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Yes. There is meter and rhyme in English poetry. You may please peruse the following link and the contents thereof for some info: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry#Meter > > Although I write poetry, I am not much skilled in rhyming. I write it the way it flows out of my mind. Most modern poets do just that. It is the content that matters more than the style. Meter and rhyme can sometimes kill poetry. Alliteration can be a bore. > > Best regards. > > Madathil Nair > ___________________ > > advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr@> wrote: > Sofar, I have read somany poems/ verses > > written by Sri Ananda prabhuji, Sri Madathil Nair prabhuji etc. But sofar > > I am not able to understand 'what exactly' needs to make a poem or verse > > in English language !! These poems/verses are just appear to me like > > prose section which are arranged in multiple lines (sometimes four or > > sometimes three) & four or five words per line!! Is there any chandas in > > English language also to compose a poem or a verse?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 praNAms Sri Madathil Nair prabhuji Hare Krishna Thanks for the link...I shall read it from my colleague's desk top this week end...Would it be possible to explain me about the 'rules' that needs to be followed for the composition of the poem or verse?? ( any difference in the composition of poem & verse?? that also I dont know)..and also let me know whether there is any specific style of reading the verse or poem...Actually I read Sri Ananda prabhuji's verse just like an answer to the question :-)) For example : // quote // Question : What we call 'space', how is it made? Answer : It's made of co-existing points. One point alone does not make space. To make up space, two points or more must co-exist, at the same time. Thus co-existing, points relate. The different points that make up space relate through intervening points which make up distance in between. // unquote // Frankly, I could not find any abnormality in reading the verses in this fashion. And IMO, nobody (atleast mUdhamati-s like me) would have come to know the above is basically a verse which is in the text format :-)) Am I stretching this too long?? Anyway, this is my last mail on this issue...If anything still pricks me, I shall write to you directly off the line. Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Namaste Bhaskarji: There is no meaningful distinction between poetry and prose – some writers prefer to compose in prose and others choose poetry. Both fall into the media of writing to communicate ideas. Poetry is more flexible for composing music and the prose needs some decomposition to become suitable for music. For example, the entire advaita philosophy can be explained by a singer with ragam, thalam and pallavi. But a good orator will be able to convey the advaita philophy with authoritative voice and through examples. We have seen both happening – some enjoy the musical form and others like discourses. Also some may like both music and lectures and few others do not like either! the distinction is between prose and verse. Prose comes from a Latin word meaning 'straight ahead' (prorsus). In prose the words begin at the left hand margin and then carry on until they have said what they are going to say (usually in a paragraph). Poetic verse comes from a Latin word meaning 'to turn a corner' (vertere). in verse the words begin at the left margin, carry on until they reach a certain point (the end of the line) then turn around and begin from the left margin all over again. Poetry is usually written in verse, which is why people think poetry and verse are the same thing (and get confused). But poetry doesn't have to be written in verse and for example many of William Blake's poetic books and others are examples of poetry written in prose. Here are some more highlights: Poems are short on details and leave the reader to fill up the blanks using one's own imagination. Prose form of expression contain more details (sometime more than necessary!). The following statement by Hillary Clinton during the presidential election campaign summarize the difference between poetry and prose eloquently - " You campaign in poetry, but you govern in prose. " (Hillary Clinton, Nashua, N.H., Jan. 6, 2008). Poetic composition for most of us will likely consume lot more time and that may explain why we chose phrase in all our exchanges. With my warm regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr wrote: > English language also to compose a poem or a verse?? Again my apologies > for asking some odd question in Advaita forum. > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > bhaskar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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