Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Namaste,In the old sciences, the terms 'objective' and 'subjective' are somewhat differently conceived from a usage that has come into prevalence today, in connection with our current emphasis on modern physics. The older conception can be seen from the following analysis of Sanskrit terms.Objective - bhautika (from 'bhu' - to 'become', to 'happen', to 'take place')Subjective - atmiya (from 'atman' - 'knowing subject, inmost self') 'Objective' is related to becoming and change. 'Subjective' is related to an unchanging self that knows all change.Worldly - laukika (from 'lok' - to 'perceive' and 'loka' - 'region, world')Spiritual - atmiya (from 'atman' - 'knowing subject, inmost self') The 'world' is conceived as made up from objects of perception. 'Spiritual' is conceived as truth of knowing self.Belief - mata (from 'man' - to 'think, suppose')Faith - shraddha (from 'shraddha' - to 'trust, be convinced') 'Belief' is an outward habit of supposing and assuming. 'Faith' is conviction, from an inner depth of experience.Science - shastra (from 'shas' - to 'correct, chasten, govern'). In science, beliefs are governed, tested and corrected by systematic reason and investigation.Enquiry - vicara (from 'vicar' - to 'reflect, question'). Science progresses by asking reflective questions, about assumptions and beliefs that have been taken for granted.Particular thing - vishesha (from 'vishish' - to 'distinguish')Generic principle - tattva (literally 'tat-tva' - 'that-ness')Particular things are differing instances of generic principles that are shared in common.Personal - paurusheya (from 'purusha' - 'man, human-ness')Impersonal - apaurusheya (the prefix 'a-' means 'not') Each person is derived from a common principle of human-ness, which is itself impersonal.Seeing - darshana (from 'drsh' - to 'see, behold, perceive')Knowledge - jnyana (from 'jnya' - to 'know') 'Seeing' is a partial perception of differing objects. 'Knowing' is an impartial realization of underlying truth.Apparent form - rupa (from 'rup' - to 'form, exhibit')True nature - svarupa (the prefix 'sva-' means 'self-, own') 'Apparent form' is a superficial view, seen from outside. 'True nature' is experienced at the depth of self, within. Essentially the same conception is found in ancient traditions throughout the world. Here is a description of it in European history (quoted from The Oxford English Dictionary, Oxford University Press, England, 1933 - from the entry 'Objective'). The Scholastic Philosophy made the distinction between what belongs to things subjectively (subjective), or as they are 'in themselves', and what belongs to them objectively (objective), as they are presented to consciousness. In later times, the custom of considering the perceiving or thinking consciousness as pre-eminently 'the subject' brought about a different use of these words, which now prevails in philosophical language. According to this, what is considered as belonging to the perceiving or thinking self is called subjective, and what is considered as independent of the perceiving or thinking self is called in contrast objective.... this transition of use (which primarily concerns the word subjective, and affects objective as its antithesis) resulting in what is almost an exchange of sense between the two adjectives... [The word 'objective' has thus two meanings, as follows.] a. Opposed to subjective in the older sense = 'in itself': Existing as an object of consciousness as distinct from having any real existence; considered only as presented to the mind (not as it is, or may be, in itself or in its own nature)... b. Opposed to subjective in the modern sense: That is or belongs to what is presented to consciousness, as opposed to the consciousness itself; that is the object of perception or thought, as distinct from the perceiving or thinking subject; hence, that is, or has the character of being, a thing external to the mind; real. Ananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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