Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 PraNam Advaitins Please correct my understanding with respect to the Mind and the movement of Five Pranas.. Is the existence of Mind due to the continuous movement of Pranas? Analogous to an magnetic field around a electricity in a coil? i.e. Mind is created due to Pranas and hence all living beings have a mind - When Pranas cease to exist - mind is gone... Which also means that all non-living beings have no mind... Thank you Sudesh Pillutla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Sudesh - PraNAms I had some posts on the Mind in the advaitin list. You may be able to see them in Dennis website - www.advaita.org.uk. In Tai. Up - panca koshas have been analyzed. From grosser to subtle - annamaya (food )- praanama (all physiological functions), manomaya (mind with jnaana and karmendriayas) and vijnaana maya (intellectual) and ananda maya (or kaarana) - In the presence of all pervading consciousness, it is the buddhi that gets illumined first, then mind and the rest in that order. Death involve withdrawing in the order - from body level then to praanaas and the mind and then to intellect etc. The subtle body as it withdraws packs up the panca praaNas, the jnaanedriyas, Karmendriayas with the mind-intellect with vaasanas move to the next field leaving only the annamaya kosha behind. I am not answering the way you asked. But this is discussion as per my understanding in the scriptures. The rest is speculation. Hari Om! Sadananda --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Sudesh <sudeshpillutla wrote: Please correct my understanding with respect to the Mind and the movement of Five Pranas.. Is the existence of Mind due to the continuous movement of Pranas? Analogous to an magnetic field around a electricity in a coil? i.e. Mind is created due to Pranas and hence all living beings have a mind - When Pranas cease to exist - mind is gone... Which also means that all non-living beings have no mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Acharya SadaJi, PraNams Thanks and I re-read your posts... My confusion was due to classical mistake of hardwired perception of materialistic nature of creation. It now makes sense that Mind is the Basis for PraNas which are basis for Body, otherwise we can't explain the birth of human being due to previous karmas and Vrittis. Thanks you very much Sudesh Pillutla PS: Dennis Ji thank you for collecting such great articles in your website.. advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: > > Sudesh - PraNAms > � > I had some posts on the Mind in the advaitin list. You may be able to see them in Dennis website - www.advaita.org.uk.� > � > In Tai. Up - panca koshas have been analyzed.� From grosser to subtle - annamaya (food )- praanama (all physiological functions), manomaya (mind with jnaana and karmendriayas) and vijnaana maya (intellectual) and ananda maya (or kaarana) -�In the presence of all pervading consciousness, it is the buddhi that gets illumined first, then mind and the rest in that order. > Death involve withdrawing in the order - from body level then to praanaas and the mind and then to intellect etc. The subtle body as it withdraws packs up the panca praaNas, the jnaanedriyas, Karmendriayas with the mind-intellect with vaasanas move to the next field leaving only the annamaya kosha behind. > I am not answering the way you asked. But this is discussion as per my understanding in the scriptures. The rest is speculation. > > Hari Om! > Sadananda > > > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Sudesh <sudeshpillutla wrote: > > > > Please correct my understanding with respect to the Mind and the movement of Five Pranas.. > > Is the existence of Mind due to the continuous movement of Pranas? Analogous to an magnetic field around a electricity in a coil? > > i.e. Mind is created due to Pranas and hence all living beings have a mind - When Pranas cease to exist - mind is gone... > > Which also means that all non-living beings have no mind... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Sudesh sir, Namasthe I wish to know the relation between PRANA and MIND.Prana is one of the pancha Bhuthas.(Materialistic nature)but Mind do not belongs to Matter.It can be treated as subtle energy subtler than Electrical, Magnetic,Electromagnetic powers which are being produced,controlled, measured and utilised by Human beingsbut But mental energy cannot be meaured and utilised by human beings as they please.of course man is able to produse all these other energies with his mind only.so till date man is not able to know what his mind is ,from where it comes and where it will go.But to our astonishment our Prana has no " prana " itself as per upanishads.It cannot enter or leave any body as it likes.It has no independant will.in fact it is a nonlivingbeing.But due its presence only all materialistic bodies inour earth are aable to function.That super power is " Bahmn " (ATMA) allof us have studied in one upnishad that the so called GODS have no independant existance,power to exibit any where.for examle The fire God cannot burn a dry grass without the help of " Brahmin " so ultimately it is clear that this entire universe is Nothing but " Brahman " Sd/sastry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 PraNams Sasrty garu Instead of I posting on your question on important question - it would be better if you could read these articles by Acharya SadaJi - they are very lucid. http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/sadananda/questions_sadananda.htm At the bottom of that page you will see a list of articles on Mind.. Also, Tattriya Up. has dealt with this subject - There are many sites that discuss this Up. Thanks Sudesh advaitin , " bagawan_sastry " <bagawan_sastry wrote: > > Sudesh sir, > Namasthe > I wish to know the relation between PRANA and MIND.Prana is one of the pancha Bhuthas.(Materialistic nature)but Mind do not belongs to > Matter.It can be treated as subtle energy subtler than Electrical, > Magnetic,Electromagnetic powers which are being produced,controlled, > measured and utilised by Human beingsbut But mental energy cannot be meaured and utilised by human beings as they please.of course man is > able to produse all these other energies with his mind only.so till date man is not able to know what his mind is ,from where it comes and where it will go.But to our astonishment our Prana has no " prana " itself as per upanishads.It cannot enter or leave any body as it likes.It has no independant will.in fact it is a nonlivingbeing.But due its presence only all materialistic bodies inour earth are aable to function.That super power is " Bahmn " (ATMA) allof us have studied in one upnishad that the so called GODS have no independant existance,power to exibit any where.for examle The fire God cannot > burn a dry grass without the help of " Brahmin " so ultimately it is clear that this entire universe is Nothing but " Brahman " > Sd/sastry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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