About VyAsa SmRti quoted in Mandukya Karika Bhashya

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Namaste.

 

Smriti samgraha in 7 volumes are published. Available in Lal Bahadur Sastry

University Library at Delhi. Vyasa Smriti is one among them.

 

sriram

 

advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v wrote:

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> Namaste.

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> There is a verse quoted by Shankaracharya in His commentary to the Mandukya

Karika 2.31:

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> The transliteration is:

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> //tamaH shvabhranibham dRShTam varShabudbuda-sannibham |

> naashapraayam sukhaaddhInam naashottaramabhAvagam ||

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> (as per the VyAsa Smriti)iti vyAsasmRteH//

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> The translation of the above by Swami Gambhirananda in the Advaita Ashrama

publication of the Mandukya Upanishad (in 'Eight Upanishads') is:

>

> //This universe is viewed by the wise as unreal like a crack on the ground

that a rope appears to be in darkness, or as always unstable like bubbles

created by rain, devoid ob bliss and ceasing to exist after dissolution.//

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> Any information about this vyAsa smRti, the author, the editor, the

publication, etc. is welcome. In the following sites there is a mention of this

smRti:

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http://complete-history.blogspot.com/2009/12/smritis-and-their-times-dhrma-shast\

ras.html

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> Also:

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> http://sanskritdocuments.org/

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> Om Tat Sat

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advaitin , " Venkata Sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi

wrote:

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> Namaste.

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> Smriti samgraha in 7 volumes are published. Available in Lal Bahadur Sastry

University Library at Delhi. Vyasa Smriti is one among them.

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> sriram

 

 

Namaste,

 

Thank you Sriram ji, for the response. Is there any way by which we can access

that book and verify if the quoted verse is indeed there? It is said that

several libraries are networked and books can be accessed.

 

I appeal to the other members too to find out if this verse surfaces in any

search on the internet. The Digital Library too could be searched. It is

important because if this verse is located in any work pre-Shankara, there would

be evidence that adhyAsa as the cause of samsara/mithyAtva of jagat could be

found mentioned in works earlier to Shankara.

 

//tamaH shvabhranibham dRShTam varShabudbuda-sannibham |

naashapraayam sukhaaddhInam naashottaramabhAvagam ||

 

(as per the VyAsa Smriti)iti vyAsasmRteH//

 

 

Regards,

subbu

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advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v wrote:

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> advaitin , " Venkata Sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi@> wrote:

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> > Smriti samgraha in 7 volumes are published. Available in Lal Bahadur Sastry

University Library at Delhi. Vyasa Smriti is one among them.

 

Namaste,

 

The Vyasa Smriti is available at:

 

http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/smriti/02Vyasa_Smriti.pdf

 

It gives the following reference:

 

Reference:

Smriti Sandarbha Vol. III, (Delhi: Nag, 1981), p. 1631.

 

The Digital Library of India (DLI)has 7 vol. of Smriti Sandarbha

 

The quotation could not be located in the available Vyasa Smriti.

 

The DLI collection was inaccessible today.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

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Addendum:

 

The is site has these Smritis (downloadable; in Devanagari script only):

 

http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/smriti.htm

 

 

(Angirasa,Vyasa,Apastamba,Daksha,Vishnu,

Yajnavalkya,Likhita,Samvarta,Shankha,

Brihaspati,Atri,Katyayana,Parashara,Manu,

Aishanasa,Harita,Gautama,Yama)

 

In addition, Upasmritis -

Kashyapa,Pulastya,Narada,Vishvamitra,Devala,

Markandeya,Rishyashringa,Ashvalayana,Narayana,

Bharadvaja,Lohita,Vyaghrapada,Dalbhya,Prajapati,

Shatatapa,Vadhula,Gobhila,Baudhayana)

 

 

 

 

Sunder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v wrote:

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Namaste.

 

I saw the book during a book fair organised in Delhi by Nag Publishers. The cost is very high. The entire set is about 7000/-.

 

But as said, Lal Bahadur Sastri University Library has these sets and also can arrange for the xerox copy of the same with cheaper price.

 

regs,

sriram--- On Thu, 28/1/10, subrahmanian_v <subrahmanian_v wrote:

subrahmanian_v <subrahmanian_v Re: About VyAsa SmRti quoted in Mandukya Karika Bhashyaadvaitin Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 10:35 PM

advaitin@ s.com, "Venkata Sriram" <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:>> Namaste.> > Smriti samgraha in 7 volumes are published. Available in Lal Bahadur Sastry University Library at Delhi. Vyasa Smriti is one among them. > > sriramNamaste,Thank you Sriram ji, for the response. Is there any way by which we can access that book and verify if the quoted verse is indeed there? It is said that several libraries are networked and books can be accessed. I appeal to the other members too to find out if this verse surfaces in any search on the internet. The Digital Library too could be searched. It is important because if this verse is located in any work pre-Shankara, there would be evidence that adhyAsa as the

cause of samsara/mithyAtva of jagat could be found mentioned in works earlier to Shankara.//tamaH shvabhranibham dRShTam varShabudbuda- sannibham |naashapraayam sukhaaddhInam naashottaramabhAvag am ||(as per the VyAsa Smriti)iti vyAsasmRteH/ /Regards,subbu

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advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh wrote:

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> advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v@> wrote:

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> > advaitin , " Venkata Sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi@>

wrote:

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> > >

> > > Smriti samgraha in 7 volumes are published. Available in Lal Bahadur

Sastry University Library at Delhi. Vyasa Smriti is one among them.

>

> Namaste,

>

> The Vyasa Smriti is available at:

>

> http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/smriti/02Vyasa_Smriti.pdf

>

> It gives the following reference:

>

> Reference:

> Smriti Sandarbha Vol. III, (Delhi: Nag, 1981), p. 1631.

>

> The Digital Library of India (DLI)has 7 vol. of Smriti Sandarbha

>

> The quotation could not be located in the available Vyasa Smriti.

>

> The DLI collection was inaccessible today.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

 

 

Namaste Sunder ji and Sriram ji,

 

Thank you for your inputs on the topic. Our aim is to see if the verse is

available in the said vyAsa smRti. Maybe a member residing in Delhi could visit

the Library and make a search.

 

Could it be the MahabhArata? Shankara has quoted quite a few verses from the M

across His Bhashyas. In one place at least He says: 'Bhagavan VyAsa too says so'

while quoting from the M. Does the meter of the verse under reference match the

Mahabharata type?

 

Regards,

subbu

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Dear Subbuji,

 

The vyasa smriti is available with my friend who is a tarka acharya at Sringeri

Pitha. He is Dr. Naveen Holla.

 

You may contact him over the phone and he is conversent with kannada, sanskrit &

hindi languages. A great scholar in tarka who has written a commentary on

" shatakoti " which was the work of the brother of HH Satchidananda Sivabhinava

Nrisimha Bharati Swamigal of Sringeri.

 

The contact no. i will give to your personal id to protect the privacy.

 

regs,

sriram

 

 

 

advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v wrote:

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> advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh@> wrote:

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> > advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v@> wrote:

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> > > advaitin , " Venkata Sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi@>

wrote:

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> > > >

> > > > Smriti samgraha in 7 volumes are published. Available in Lal Bahadur

Sastry University Library at Delhi. Vyasa Smriti is one among them.

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > The Vyasa Smriti is available at:

> >

> > http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/smriti/02Vyasa_Smriti.pdf

> >

> > It gives the following reference:

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> > Reference:

> > Smriti Sandarbha Vol. III, (Delhi: Nag, 1981), p. 1631.

> >

> > The Digital Library of India (DLI)has 7 vol. of Smriti Sandarbha

> >

> > The quotation could not be located in the available Vyasa Smriti.

> >

> > The DLI collection was inaccessible today.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunder

>

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> Namaste Sunder ji and Sriram ji,

>

> Thank you for your inputs on the topic. Our aim is to see if the verse is

available in the said vyAsa smRti. Maybe a member residing in Delhi could visit

the Library and make a search.

>

> Could it be the MahabhArata? Shankara has quoted quite a few verses from the

M across His Bhashyas. In one place at least He says: 'Bhagavan VyAsa too says

so' while quoting from the M. Does the meter of the verse under reference match

the Mahabharata type?

>

> Regards,

> subbu

> >

>

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advaitin , " subrahmanian_v " <subrahmanian_v wrote:

 

> Namaste Sunder ji and Sriram ji,

 

Could it be the MahabhArata? Shankara has quoted quite a few verses from the M

across His Bhashyas. In one place at least He says: 'Bhagavan VyAsa too says so'

while quoting from the M. Does the meter of the verse under reference match the

Mahabharata type?

>

> Regards,

> subbu

> >

>

 

Namaste.

 

The verse in question has been traced to the Mahabharata. It is in the ShAnti

Parvan. I found the verse in the CD titled 'shAstrANi' released by Sri

Ramakrishna Math, Chennai, some years ago. This CD contains a wealth of works

of our Scripture. I gave the search word 'tamaH' under Mahabharata and it showed

this verse among many others having this word. The reference given therein is:

 

'shaanti parva sapta-navatyadhika-shatatamo'dhyAyaH' meaning 'Chapter No. 197 of

the Shanti Parva, verse no. 58.'

(unfortunately, this CD is no longer on sale.)

 

The verse has a third line too:

 

// rajastamasi sammagnam panke dvipadamivAvasham //

 

{...immersed in rajas and tamas akin to a man helplessly caught in slush }

 

By connecting the two lines quoted by Shankara, we get the overall meaning:

 

//This universe is viewed by the wise as unreal like a crack on the ground that

a rope appears to be in darkness, or as always unstable like bubbles created by

rain, devoid of bliss and ceasing to exist after dissolution....immersed in

rajas and tamas akin to a man helplessly caught in slush.//

 

The verse is a description of the world: 1. It is unreal 2. It is unstable 3.

devoid of bliss 4. Is just an appearance during its manifestation and does not

exist before and after its disappearance.

5. It is predominantly raajasic and taamasic - that is the reason for the other

four characteristics.

 

The verse is evidence for 1. Veda VyAsa authenticating the mithyAtva of the

world. 2. His authenticating the drishti-srishti, 'cognizance is creation'

characteristic of the world.

 

It is also in tune with what Veda VyAsa has said in the Bhagavadgita in a number

of verses.

 

The details of the verse under reference:

 

There is a verse quoted by Shankaracharya in His commentary to the Mandukya

Karika 2.31:

 

The transliteration is:

 

//tamaH shvabhranibham dRShTam varShabudbuda-sannibham |

naashapraayam sukhaaddhInam naashottaramabhAvagam ||

 

(as per the VyAsa Smriti)iti vyAsasmRteH//

 

 

The translation of the above by Swami Gambhirananda in the Advaita Ashrama

publication of the Mandukya Upanishad (in 'Eight Upanishads') is:

 

//This universe is viewed by the wise as unreal like a crack on the ground that

a rope appears to be in darkness, or as always unstable like bubbles created by

rain, devoid ob bliss and ceasing to exist after dissolution.//

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Subbu that is great - Example for the illusory nature of world came much before

Goudapada.

 

PraNAms

 

Sadananda

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 2/7/10, subrahmanian_v <subrahmanian_v wrote:

 

 

The transliteration is:

 

//tamaH shvabhranibham dRShTam varShabudbuda- sannibham |

naashapraayam sukhaaddhInam naashottaramabhAvag am ||

 

(as per the VyAsa Smriti)iti vyAsasmRteH/ /

 

The translation of the above by Swami Gambhirananda in the Advaita Ashrama

publication of the Mandukya Upanishad (in 'Eight Upanishads') is:

 

//This universe is viewed by the wise as unreal like a crack on the ground that

a rope appears to be in darkness, or as always unstable like bubbles created by

rain, devoid ob bliss and ceasing to exist after dissolution. //

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praNAmaH shri subbu-ji,

 

Sorry for the delayed response on this, though I am happy that you

could locate the original.

 

There already exists an online search engine for words in M.B. It is

the following:

 

http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil/1_sanskr/2_epic/mbh/sas\

/mbh_index.htm

 

In that, when I go to the 't' index,

 

http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil/1_sanskr/2_epic/mbh/sas\

/mbhx_32.htm

 

and go to the following link (among the many that give references to

tamaH, I get

 

http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil/1_sanskr/2_epic/mbh/sas\

/b12/b12c290.htm#b12c290v058

 

58 tamaḥ Å›vabhranibhaṃ dṛṣṭvÄ vará¹£abudbudasaṃnibham

nÄÅ›aprÄyaṃ sukhÄd dhÄ«naṃ nÄÅ›ottaram abhÄvagam

rajas tamasi saṃmagnaṃ paá¹…ke dvipam ivÄvaÅ›am

 

Which seems to indicate that it is verse 290 in book 12

(shaanti-parva) of this version of M.B.

 

Namaste again,

Ramakrishna

 

 

 

2010/2/7 subrahmanian_v <subrahmanian_v:

> The verse in question has been traced to the Mahabharata.  It is in the

ShAnti Parvan.  I found the verse in the CD titled 'shAstrANi' released by Sri

Ramakrishna Math, Chennai, some years ago.  This CD contains a wealth of works

of our Scripture. I gave the search word 'tamaH' under Mahabharata and it showed

this verse among many others having this word. The reference given therein is:

>

> 'shaanti parva sapta-navatyadhika-shatatamo'dhyAyaH' meaning 'Chapter No. 197

of the Shanti Parva, verse no. 58.'

> (unfortunately, this CD is no longer on sale.)