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I know the motive of Shri Sastriji and could read between the lines. Sastriji

mentioned " diluted sanyasa " which is the order of the day now. The modern

self-proclaimed sanyasins without any proper sampradaya, achara, shoucha vidhi

and proper upasana, claim themselves to be yatis which is not as per Sankara

Siddhanta. And that is what Shri Sastriji wanted to say.

 

Strictly speaking, a sanyasi has more number of Anushtanas when compared to a

Grihastha. Before taking the Sanyas, he has to perform Gayatri Purascharana till

he completes 24 lakhs of Gayatri. He has to perform the Viraja Homa. During the

nadi snana, he has to perform mantra snana with mrittika, aghamarshana sukta,

mrittika sukta. Has to remove kati sutra, yajnopavita, shikha etc. and stand

naked before the gurunatha. Guru asks him to come forward from the river in

front all (he has to forget his deha abhimana) gives the eka vastra called sAThi

and performs the mahavakyopadesa. Then danda and kamandala are given.

 

Depending upon the amnaya pita parampara (sringeri, puri, badari, joshi), the

corresponding mahavakhyas are initiated (like aham brahmasi, tatm tva asi etc.).

So, a yati has to do the japa of

pranava (om-kara) 12000 times daily without fail. Do the japa of Narayana

Ashtakshari, Vishnu Sahasranama, Satarudriya, Bhagavat Gita, Brahma Sutras,

Mandukya Upanishad alongwith Gaudapada Karikas. Study the portions of Prasthana

Traya Bhashyas daily without fail. He has to contemplate on the Hamsa Tattva

everyday.

 

As regard the tarpana to his danda (staff), 12 sutras are entwined and tied to

the Danda. There is a special danda puja, tarpana and anushtana to the Agra,

Madhya and Adho bhaga of the danda with the bhAvana of Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra.

This danda is the Upavitha to the Yatis and if lost, they should fast, do

prayaschita japa & tarpana till they get the new danda from a yati similar to

his guru's sanyasa order.

 

Regarding the qualification to become yati, I think one need not answer this

question and this all depends upon one's chitta vrittis and samskaras. One

should take the sanyasa from the DASANAMI ORDER

ONLY as prescribed by Shri Sankaracharya. Some of their titles are Bharati,

Tirtha, Puri, Aranya, Saraswati, Giri etc. The sanyasa should be taken only from

the gurus who belong this Dasanami Order.

 

Now regarding the anushtana karma of Sankaracharyas in the pita, they are quite

different from ordinary yatis of dasanami order. They have the responsibility of

maintaining the administration and

law and order of the pita, perform the puja to pIThAdhi-devata Sharada, study

sastras etc. Ordinary yati has no anushtana other than Pranavopasana but

Muttadhipatis have the anushtana karma of japa of their respective amnaya krama

of Srividya, Srichakra Puja and Panchayatana. Though they seem to be engrossed

in these anushtanas, their OWN UPASANA is entirely different which they perform

at 4:00 AM in the morning. They perform the japa of Pranava, and mahavakya

anushtana.

 

Among the Amnaya Mutts, Sringeri is just a class apart with crest jewels of

acharya parampara. They are initiated the mahavakya " aham brahma asmi " . They

have their nitya anushtana of parayanas of Sutra Bhashya alongwith Sankara

Commentary, Upanishads, Sastra Chintana, Yoga Abhyasa, parayana of Anandalahari,

Atmavidya Vilasam etc. They also do the japas of various mantras related to

Srividya Amnaya Mantra Sastra. Basically, Sringeri Acharyas concentrate on

Dakshinamurthy, Bala, Panchadasi, Shodasi, Hamsa, Nrisimha and other mantra.

Nrisimha Anushtup mantra is the favourite mantra of Sringeri Acharyas.

 

Regarding their life style, they have a strict lifestyle having the Bhiksha of 3

morsels. It entirely depends on their austerities. Nrisimha Bharati Swamigal

survived on couple of bitter gourd everyday as His bhiksha for 40 years! Shri

Swamigal used to suffer from stomach ache (owing to his prarabdha karma). He can

cure that ache but suffered just to show that one cannot avoid one's prarabdha

karma even though one is an avatara purusha. During Sriyantra Puja, he used to

place a grass beside him. With some mantras, he used to transfer the stomach

ache to the grass. The grass begins to shake

with pain. Then as soon as the Navavarana archana was over, he used to take back

the pain from grass. Such is the tapas of this wonderful acharya.

 

My prostrations to the Illustrious Acharya Parampara of Sringeri.

 

Regs,

sriram

 

 

advaitin , Venkata Subramanian <venkat_advaita wrote:

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> If without having completed Veda Adhayayana one cannot take samnyasa from a

traditional Acharya, how come was Samnyasa Ashrama given to Sri Sivaswami by

the then Sringeri Jagadguru Sri Nrusimha Bharathi Swamigal, to the former, when

the former was only 9 years old ?  The initiate was Jagadguru Sri Sachidananda

Shivabhinava Nrusimha Bharathi the famous.  In Sringeri tradition itself, many

were initiated into Samnyasam at a very young age.  Jagadguru Srimadabhinava

Vidya theertha Swamigal for example.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Venkat.

>

> Sadgurubhyo Namah.

>

> --- On Sat, 13/2/10, snsastri <sn.sastri wrote:

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> snsastri <sn.sastri

> Re: A Perspective - 21

> advaitin

> Saturday, 13 February, 2010, 9:02 PM

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> Dear Sada-ji,

> My teacher Dr. Krishnamurthy Sastri who is an eminent scholar in Vedanta has

also repeatedly stated in our class that Shri Shankara does not consider

sannyAsa to be essential.

> If we say that Shri Shankara insists on sannyAsa, then we must also accept

that the sannyAsa he is speaking about is what is laid down in the shruti and

smRti. That is very much different from the diluted sannyAsa of some present-day

sannyAsis. The traditional type of sannyAsa is what is observed by the Acharyas

of the mathas established by Shankara and the other sannyAsis there. They should

bathe three times a day (triShavaNasnAnam) , do japa and eat only once a day.

The traditional kind of sannyAsa can be given only by the traditional sannyasis.

They will give it only to Brahmin males and that too only to those who have been

leading their lives strictly as laid down in the shrutis and smRtis. Most of us

cannot dream of being accepted by them for sannyAsa. So from the practical point

of view also there is no point in saying that sannyAsa is essential.

>

> Swami Sivananda gave sannyAsa irrespective of caste and also to women. But

this is not approved by the traditional Acharyas. Shankara has said in the

bRihadAranyaka up. bhAShya that only Brahmins are entitled to sannyAsa.

According to Manu smRti a Brahmin loses his brAhmaNatva if he does not study the

vedas. Such a person will not be given sannyAsa by the traditional Acharyas.

>

> Any one can get the modern kind of sannyAsa, but that is not the sannyAsa that

Shankara speaks of.

>

> Best wishes,

> S.N.Sastri

>

> advaitin@ s.com, " kuntimaddisada " <kuntimaddisada@ ...>

wrote:

> > As for as physical sanyaasa is concerned I concur with Swami

Paramarthanandaji talks on Sanyaasa - One may be able to down load that talk.

> >

> > In essence it is not necessary, but it is helpful.

> >

> > Hari Om!

> > Sadananda

> >

>

>

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Shree Venkata Sriramji - PraNAms

 

First I could not find anything to read between the lines. If so shree sastriji

would have inserted that in the lines itself.

 

The purpose of discussion was to respond to the statements made originally by

Shayam ji on the list which he was quoting from the references he has provided -

on that Bhaskarji was asking my opinion whether bhoutika sanyaasa is

pre-requisite for self-realization.

 

From my perspective which I think is also that of Swami Paramarthanandaji's

perspective - it is helpful but not necessary. Sastriji essentially agreed with

that statement. What is necessary is the saadhana chatushTaya sampatthi as

Shankara discusses in relation to the first sutra of B.S. That which is

eternally present, any requirement as essential is falls short of the nature of

the goal itself. This ultimately includes saadhana catushTaya sampatii too -

that recognition will also comes with the acquisition of saadhana chatushTaya

sampatti. It is as in the example sited - the four miles of running to find the

necklace in the chain is necessary to discover that the running was not

necessary. But if one can discover the missing chain by some other way - the

mission is accomplished.

 

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

 

I know the motive of Shri Sastriji and could read between the lines. Sastriji

mentioned " diluted sanyasa " which is the order of the day now.