Ramana/Buddhism on freewill etc

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Namaste ,

 

Let me start with this quote from a Buddhist Text;

 

That bhikkhu who has crossed the mire,

Crushed the thorn of sensual desire,

And reached the destruction of delusion

Is not perturbed by pleasures and pains.

 

Udana III, 2

 

One can walk through the world without creating karmic bonds by the

process of Nishkarma Karma, or giving up the fruits of actions to

the Divine, for we are not the doer-Who am I?- and the actions are

predetermined anyway. Even if we are not an enlightened one.

With regard to 'too much cold turns to ice', this is probably a

truism for the fire of desire has to be put out and turned to ice.

Except for eating and drinking and usual bodily functions all

actions and desires can be binding. We have to completely reverse

the process of manifestation and desire.

 

From 'Be as you are' --Ramana Maharshi;

 

Q 'Now for instance I put this fan that is in my hand down on the

floor here. Can it be that it was already decided that on such and

such a day, at such and such an hour, I should move the fan like

this and put it down here?

 

A. Ramana; Certainly. Whatever this body is to do and whatever

experience it is to pass through was already decided when it came

into existance.

 

 

Q. What becomes then of man's freedom and responsibility for his

actions?

 

A.Ramana: The only freedom man has is to strive and acquire the

jnana which will enable him not to identify himself with the

body.The body will go through the actions rendered inevitable by

prarabdah.

 

Ajata( non creation) is the ultimate truth. Just as primary is true

for a child, high school is true for a teenager, and university for

an adult, and post graduate for the ultimate educational institute.

None are wrong at their level but only the ultimate is the Truth.

 

There is no body, no creation and no Saguna/Iswara. Even in creation

Iswara is the total some of all the jivas, like a forest is total

some of trees.

Nirguna is inexplicable, for describing limits...........ONS..Tony.