Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Namaste , Let me start with this quote from a Buddhist Text; That bhikkhu who has crossed the mire, Crushed the thorn of sensual desire, And reached the destruction of delusion Is not perturbed by pleasures and pains. Udana III, 2 One can walk through the world without creating karmic bonds by the process of Nishkarma Karma, or giving up the fruits of actions to the Divine, for we are not the doer-Who am I?- and the actions are predetermined anyway. Even if we are not an enlightened one. With regard to 'too much cold turns to ice', this is probably a truism for the fire of desire has to be put out and turned to ice. Except for eating and drinking and usual bodily functions all actions and desires can be binding. We have to completely reverse the process of manifestation and desire. From 'Be as you are' --Ramana Maharshi; Q 'Now for instance I put this fan that is in my hand down on the floor here. Can it be that it was already decided that on such and such a day, at such and such an hour, I should move the fan like this and put it down here? A. Ramana; Certainly. Whatever this body is to do and whatever experience it is to pass through was already decided when it came into existance. Q. What becomes then of man's freedom and responsibility for his actions? A.Ramana: The only freedom man has is to strive and acquire the jnana which will enable him not to identify himself with the body.The body will go through the actions rendered inevitable by prarabdah. Ajata( non creation) is the ultimate truth. Just as primary is true for a child, high school is true for a teenager, and university for an adult, and post graduate for the ultimate educational institute. None are wrong at their level but only the ultimate is the Truth. There is no body, no creation and no Saguna/Iswara. Even in creation Iswara is the total some of all the jivas, like a forest is total some of trees. Nirguna is inexplicable, for describing limits...........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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