Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 A member of advaitajnana, whose name I apologize for not being able to find, recommends that we “accept the situation”. Tony O’Clery says that we lose Ego (duality) by expanding into Universality (non-duality). ”the noise I am” says that “Reality is Silence, the universe its noise.” I find these comments either unnecessarily paradoxical, ambiguous, or even mistaken. We can heal these deficiencies by awakening to the experiential moment, which is samsara, our constantly changing conscious experience. In the experiential moment we find somatic feeling, which gives the experiential moment its positive affective tone (makes it enjoyable, satisfying). We also find thoughts about individual things, which include a self, and we locate those objects of thought in the immediate or more remote past and in the impending or more remote future (our thoughts never refer to the immediate present, strictly speaking). Elements of samsara are distinct individual things, including selves. They and their relationship to one another are constantly changing. To distinguish among them is not to fall into any sort of duality that causes suffering or noise. The Duality to be avoided is to identify with, or fixate on, any particular thought about samsara. Samsara is not itself noisy. Just as suddenly stepping on brakes causes tires to squeal, so do we cause noise by identifying with or fixating on (clinging to) a particular experiential moment. To do so is to try to accomplish the impossible: create something fixed out of samsara. This fighting against the stream of experiential moments is what creates noise. Silence is not found outside samsara, but in our non-clinging relationship to it. To look for Silence in some Absolute apart from Samsara is yet another futile attempt to find a fixed reality through thinking. This is what I take to be the meaning of the passage that adi_shakthi16 graciously shared with us: Whatever is flexible and flowing will tend to grow. Whatever is rigid and blocked will atrophy and die. Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching Gary Schouborg -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 advaitajnana , " Gary Schouborg " <gary@s...> wrote: > A member of advaitajnana, whose name I apologize for not being able to > find, recommends that we " accept the situation " . > > > > Tony O'Clery says that we lose Ego (duality) by expanding into Universality > (non-duality). > > > > " the noise I am " says that " Reality is Silence, the universe its noise. " > > > > > > I find these comments either unnecessarily paradoxical, ambiguous, or even > mistaken. We can heal these deficiencies by awakening to the experiential > moment, which is samsara, our constantly changing conscious experience. In > the experiential moment we find somatic feeling, which gives the > experiential moment its positive affective tone (makes it enjoyable, > satisfying). We also find thoughts about individual things, which include a > self, and we locate those objects of thought in the immediate or more remote > past and in the impending or more remote future (our thoughts never refer to > the immediate present, strictly speaking). Elements of samsara are distinct > individual things, including selves. They and their relationship to one > another are constantly changing. To distinguish among them is not to fall > into any sort of duality that causes suffering or noise. The Duality to be > Namaste, where were you when in deep sleep?........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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