Guest guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 advaitin , " Dennis Waite " <dwaite@a...> wrote: > Hi Tony, > > << If there were a real appearance of creation then it would not disappear > in deep sleep. It would not disappear on the dropping of > the body of a Mukta.>> > > Surely perception of creation only takes place by virtue of the mind. Since > the mind is non-operative during deep sleep, you wouldn't expect there to be > such an appearance. Likewise on death of the body. These statements do not, > therefore, seem to argue anything. Namaste, D, The fact that the world disappears on bodiless moksha and sushupti and deep sleep, indicates the unreality and even the unbecoming. Your point that it exists but the mind is not perceiving it, is not Vedantic really. Well not Advaita anyway. The mind is still operative to a certain extent in deep sleep, with the one thought of ignorance. However if it were existing even after the mind is dissolved then it would still exist for those that have become the Universal at Moksha. However this doesn't happen, it disappears on dropping the body. (The first step of dropping the individual ego/mind happens at Moksha whilst in the body). Otherwise what you are saying is that God/Nirguna is unaware of the world and its existence. This is duality and the reason that Nirguna is unaware of the world is because it never happened. The mind never existed at all. This is why I used the example of time, to show how unreal even scientifically that is. I haven't experienced Moksha at death so I can only go on the word of the Sages on this.....However it is logical to me........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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