Fwd: Why advaitins say Jagat/World is mithya??

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advaitin , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote:

 

 

advaitin , " Dennis Waite " <dwaite@a...> wrote:

> Hi Bhaskar-ji and Tony-ji,

>

> So the world is not real in any way? Does this not lead us to all

sorts of

> incongruous conclusions? Are you not basing all of your

conclusions on

> unreality in the first place? The shruti cannot be real. Your

messages are

> not real. The words that you are using, the keyboard on which you

are

> typing. I am not real and neither are you. If all is illusion

then, having

> realised this truth, why did vyAsa, shaMkara, ramana etc. bother

writing

> anything down or speaking? For whom were they writing and to whom

speaking?

> If the waking world is truly as unreal to the enlightened one as

the dream

> world is to the waker, then what would be the incentive or

purpose? As the

> waker, you do not attempt to help the injured person in the dream

that you

> have just awoken from.

>

> (mithyA is not illusion, as has been pointed out before,

but 'neither real

> nor unreal'. The world is not real 'in its own right' but real by

virtue of

> the underlying brahman that is its true essence. My understanding

of

> ajAtivAda is not that there is and never was a world but that a

world did

> not need to be created because, as brahman, it has always and will

always

> exist. It is simply the form that is constantly changing, even if

this be

> through dissolution and re-formation, big bang and big phut!)

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Dennis

 

Namaste D,

 

There is no world or underlying Brahman only Nirguna. Having said

that Sankara said it is real whilst one is in it. So we have to deal

with it. You premise that it is a form is just a step pointing to

its own unreality and it never happened....I think we have covered

this ground before with Gaudapada etc....ONS...Tony.

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