Ajatavada---Mary the Magdalene etc.

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advaitin , " frank maiello " <egodust>

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> harIH OM! tony-ji,

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Namaste Frank-ji,

 

I have written a complete commentary on GThomas and nowhere do I see

any reference to Jesus marrying Mary the Magdalene. I have the Nag

Hammadi text in front of me now, open to the Gospel of Mary, I see

no reference to an actual marriage. You will have to give an exact

quote to me. I can accept a Radha-Krishna type of idea but that's

all. Jesus only owned one piece of woolen clothing and slept

wherever he was at night, inside or outside. He was a complete

Sannyasin, so marriage seem to be rather unlikely. Jesus it is known

did favour Mary the Magdelene but he did also Apostle John. It was

probably a favouring of their level of enlightenment rather than

anything physical. You mention Rabbis, which is a rabbit hole, for

Jesus was an Essene not the normal Pharisaic-Judean standard.

Gnostics in the main had no such thing as a Rabbi, unless you mean

Rebbe as meaning teacher only, perhaps. You will seem my intro on

Jesus and Essenes here. You will find my commentaries on GThomasin

the Jesusbook folder as well.

 

http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/Jesusbook/IntrodJesus.htm

 

With regard to Ajatavada and what you say about Zen, Ch'n or

whatever; I don't believe for one moment that Ajatavada is just a

tool as you imply. As I am not educated in the philosophies I cannot

keep up with you on your obtuse reasoning and vocabulary, however to

me Ajatavada is based on one simple idea.

 

The Sages say that on bodiless Moksha the world disappears, we have

a hint of this in deep sleep. So there cannot be Nirguna Brahman

with no idea of world and another with an idea of world, so it

cannot have ever happened at all.

 

There are various stages on the way and teachers like Sankara and

Ramana usually didn't dwell on Ajata or there would be nothing to

teach. Also the capacity and inclination of their audience was not

to believe in Ajata or at least dwell on it. So Ramana essentially

taught as far as 'The Self', or the concept of Sakti or Saguna,

knowing full well anyone realising that level also realised the

whole level if level is the right word. Iswara knows he is Saguna

and Nirguna or rather only Nirguna. Just words and concepts there in

only Brahman..................ONS..........Tony.