Fwd: Life is suffering / World and its sufferings

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, swathi dora <doraksp>

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Talk 272.

D.: There are widespread disasters spreading havoc in the world.

What is the cause of this state of affairs ?

 

M.: To whom does all this appear ?

 

D.: That won't do. I see misery around.

 

M.: You were not aware of the world and its sufferings in your

sleep ; you are conscious of them in your wakeful state. Continue in

that state in which you were not afflicted by these. That is to say,

when you are not aware of the world, its sufferings do not affect

you. When you remain as the Self, as in sleep, the world and its

sufferings will not affect you. Therefore look within. See the

Self ! There will be an end of the world and its miseries.

 

D.: But that is selfishness.

 

M.: The world is not external. Because you identify yourself

wrongly with the body you see the world outside, and its pain

becomes apparent to you. But they are not real. Seek the reality and

get rid of this unreal feeling.

 

D.: There are great men, public workers, who cannot solve the

problem of the misery of the world.

 

M.: They are ego-centered and therefore their inability. If they

remained in the Self they would be differant.

 

D.: Why do not Mahatmas help ?

 

M.: How do you know that they do not help ? Public speeches,

physical activity and material help are all outweighed by the

silence of Mahatmas. They accomplish more than others.

 

D.: What is to be done by us for ameliorating the condition of the

world?

 

M.: If you remain free from pain, there will be no pain anywhere.

The trouble now is due to your seeing the world externally and also

thinking that there is pain there. But both the world and the pain

are within you. If you look within there will be no pain.

 

D.: God is perfect. Why did He create the world imperfect ? The work

shares the nature of the author. But here it is not so.

 

M.: Who is it that raises the question ?

 

D.: I - the individual.

 

M.: Are you apart from God that you ask this question ?

So long as you consider yourself the body you see the world as

external. The imperfections appear to you. God is perfection. His

work also is perfection. But you see it as imperfection because of

your wrong identification.

 

D.: Why did the Self manifest as this miserable world ?

 

M.: In order that you might seek it. Your eyes cannot see

themselves. Place a mirror before them and they see themselves.

Similarly with the creation.

" See yourself first and then see the whole world as the Self . "

 

D.: So it amounts to this - that I should always look within.

 

M.: Yes.

 

D.: Should I not see the world at all ?

 

M.: You are not instructed to shut your eyes from the world. You are

only to " see youself first and then see the whole world as the

Self " . If you consider yourself as the body the world appears to be

external. If you are the Self the world appears as Brahman.

 

 

Dora

 

 

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