Fwd: Devi / nirvikalpa samadhi

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NonDualPhil , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote:

 

NonDualPhil , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

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> thanks greg for the dialog...:-)

 

Namaste D,

 

I think we try to qualify things too much. IMO there is Samadhi in the

ultimate Nirguna sense and anything below that is just variations

within consciousness/creation. Levels of mind if you will, like the

kosas.............ONS...Tony.

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NonDualPhil , " Tony OClery " <aoclery>

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NonDualPhil , " Greg Goode " <goode@D...> wrote:

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> NonDualPhil , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

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> > devi: your familiar with harshiji's writings about nirvikalpa

> > samadhi...? that is knowingness..

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> ===Yes, I like Harsha's particular poetic

> evocation of it. When you come out of NS,

> you realize you are still in NS. The

> reason, according to other teachings

> that NS is not required is this:

> there are other states that do the same.

> Such as Niz's " Understanding, " Atmananda's

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Namaste,

 

This is where I differ in opinion. Sat-Cit-Ananda are to

me 'qualities' as Ramana would say and does say. Qualities and

attributes are the same, so we are talking of something experiential

whether it seems to be universal or not. i.e. Saguna Brahman.

 

Whereas with me I consider Saguna Brahman, The Self, Sat-Cit-Ananda

or anything to do with this creation, as unreal and never having

ever happened, even in appearance.

 

So to me the rope and snake is total unhappening, both didn't happen

in the first place...Saguna is Self Knowing and therefore is

unreal.......Just Nir guna........

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