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advaitin , " nonsums " <nonsums> wrote:

invite its opposite. Hate `peace and sorrow'; they are not 2.

>

> Chennai: Man cannot find eternal bliss until he disciplines his

mind

> and the senses, and directs his search within.

>

> NS: Take the phenomenal world (which includes the `man' one

mistakes

> themselves for) as a dream. Now, imagine our dream man as

deciding

> to do spiritual yoga. He spends (dream) decades in ever improving

> practice. Then, somewhere an alarm goes off, and he awakens into

an

> entirely different dream, and as an entirely differently motivated

> man. What is all this `yoga dreaming nonsense' to him? What

gains

> did he make by all that effort? Do the hungry gain nutrition from

> dreaming of rich meals? Don't make dream effort; Wake Up, instead.

> Sat Nam, NS

 

Namaste,NS,

 

First a different point, in my previous message, I said Deva Prema,

I meant Deva Premal and Miten. My daughter used her chant of the

Gayatri at her wedding dinner, as a Grace.

 

Now to NS. It is good that you are questioning, statements by Sages

even. However you are not looking into the background and lead up to

these statements. This is what I call Vndism or 'verbal non

dualism 'without Sadhana. Much cleansing of mind sheaths is required

through Sadhana to be able to realise what one already has an

inkling of. Even Ramana alludes to a certain mental maturity to be

able to even wish to practice self enquiry.

 

You are right in what you say but you are ignoring the fact it is

mind talking and full of samskaras and vasanas, which have to be

totally removed and Vindism won't cut it.............ONS...Tony.

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