Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: > advaitajnana , " Gene Polotas " <gpalotas> > wrote: > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> > > wrote: > > > advaitajnana , " Gene Polotas " > <gpalotas> > > > wrote: > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery> > > > > wrote: > > > > > advaitin , santosh sharma > > > <santysharma> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Director says " mission will offer new clues about the > > > birth > > > > of > > > > > our solar system " . I ask who has given NASA permission to > > > destroy > > > > > Comet? > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Santoshji, > > > > > > > > > > This act is a violation of Ahimsa for the ego of scientists, > > and > > > > > grant money. > > > > > To slam a book on a desk even, is a violation of Ahimsa. > For > > > the > > > > > aggression and the violent disregard is egotistical. > > > > > > > > > > There are many life forms on comets, perhaps even the seeds > of > > > our > > > > > own planetary life. These are destroyed in this senseless > act > > of > > > > > violence with no real important results. The problem is it > sets > > > up > > > > a > > > > > karmic course. For all 'matter' is alive and is Brahman. > > > > > They spend all kinds of billions on this diversion for > > > dilettantes > > > > > whilst people starve and they don't even know themselves. > > > > > It is just more obsession with illusion, it is endless for > > minds. > > > > > ...............ONS...Tony. > > > > >========================= > > > > But Tony, In this illusion there is no doer and so there can > be > > > no > > > > doing nor destruction .. so what difference can anything " we " > > > think > > > > we think and do make to the illusion? -- its all just the Joy > of > > > > maya, entertainment. IN Reality Nothing is happening, as you > keep > > > > saying, writing. Or, are you just sharing the JOY and > laughter > > > that > > > > goes with this " idiocy of (our, MY) egos? " > > > > > > > > LOVE > > > > gp > > > > . > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > As Sankara says, it is real enough whilst we are in it. That is > we > > > have to do sadhana to cleanse the vasanas and samskaras, which > > > prevent realisation. For otherwise we are just vndists or verbal > > non > > > dualists.................ONS...Tony. > > >------------------ > > OM Shiva OM Tony Om > > > > No matter how much Sankara is quoted to says " it is real > > whilst we are in it " this statement cannot add up in the context > > of non-duality in which there is no doer. And when it cannot add > up > > to ZERO (the thoughtless Silence of Samadhi) it will eternally > need > > more questions and answers to keep the universe expanding even > > faster with the thoughts that it is. > > > > To give the dream called maya some sort of " reality " just > > because we think we are in it – when WE are the Dreamer -- is not > > only an absurdity but an absurdity on top an absurdity. > > > > It is impossible to be FREE of maya if " we " have to take > > it seriously because " we " are in it when there is no > > " we " because there is " no doer. " There is only the ONE, the > Dreamer… > > there is only this Atman, that plays all the roles of all its > > imaginary egos. This Atman I AM and YOU ARE and ALL IS. THIS IS > NON- > > DUALITY. Everything else is verbiage that always needs more > verbiage > > to keep the universe expanding with this verbiage we call the > > information-age. > > > > Sankara is not alone. The Buddha might have been Awake but not > awake > > enough to realize that without a doer he could not have had past- > > lives… because without a doer there is no life, mostly because > > there is no past, nor future. Life and its time is an illusion, a > > dream, fiction, maya. > > > > NON-duality means that there can be no doer only the ATMAN > > that plays all the roles…THAT IS THE ONLY WAY non-duality can ADD > > UP into the thoughtless Silence of Samadhi, Atman. And if there > is > > no doer then there are no lives, only the collection of thoughts, > > egos, that think they are alive when " alive " is just a thought. > > > > If this non-duality and " no doer " can add up somehow with > > previous lives then I would love to see the mathematics or, at > least, > > hear the story. > > > > -- just thoughts for NOW > > Namaste G, > > Even though you talk in non dual terms you still use the > experientals now and joy, indicating you believe something has > happened..........ONS...Tony. >========================= OM Shiva OM TONY OM The mind is what it thinks it thinks. " I " don't think because thoughts just come. I am the thought: " thinking is just a thought. " And " You " are the thought " I can think because thoughts come. " There is no difference but the thought: " I can think. " -- just thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 advaitajnana , " Gene Polotas " <gpalotas> wrote: > > > > Namaste G, > > > > Even though you talk in non dual terms you still use the > > experientals now and joy, indicating you believe something has > > happened..........ONS...Tony. > >========================= > OM Shiva OM TONY OM > > The mind is what it thinks it thinks. > > " I " don't think because thoughts just come. I am the > thought: " thinking is just a thought. " And " You " are the thought " I > can think because thoughts come. " > > There is no difference but the thought: " I can think. " > -- just thoughts Namaste G-ji, However the whole problem is thought which ultimately doesn't exist. Thought is the creation and it never happened..........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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