Freewill, Choice and Karma.

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advaitin , bhaskar.yr@i... wrote:

>

> The only point that I have is

> that there is only an illusion of free will even in this samsara.

> There is no time, scientifically it is relative even. The actions

we

> perform are all prarabda.

>

> praNAms

> Hare Krishna

>

> One thing I am not able to understand here....how prArabdha can

accumulate

> without excercising our free will (atleast once before the

accumulation of

> *first prArabdha karma phala* ) ?? There must be a free will which

causes

> us to store prArabdha karma phala....Either we have to accept both

> prArabdha & free will or ignore both considering our real

svarUpa........I

> think accepting prArabdha eliminating free will is self

> contradiction...karma & its fruits donot hold any bearing if we

ignore the

> free will in vyavahAra.

>

> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

> bhaskar

 

Namaste,IMHO,

 

How does 'free will' or 'choice' produce results or karma? The

action we perform in this life is a result or prarabda from a

previous life. It is not the action per se that causes the resulting

continuing action but our attitude or mental choice. We may be a

thief or dacoit in this life but if we make the choice to change,

there yet may be karma to serve,unless we become enlightened and it

is left to the body mind complex.

 

In the next life we may have something stolen from us, we may be

disappointed but if we react badly the lesson isn't learned. It is

like the yogi whose posession was stolen and he ran after the thief

with more go give him. We may be treated badly by somebody, we have

to rise above it for we are only meeting ourselves. If we react well

then the karma is dead and won't return in a future life.

 

I say 'lives' for all are really lived at the same time, so is the

karma. It is all illusion that never happened ultimately. 'God' as a

concept doesn't 'Do' anything or ever interfere, it is all reaction

and action or karma. Saints, Avatars are all part of karmic

reaction. There is only karma and prana in

illusion..........ONS...Tony.