Is Bliss part of the non dual state?

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advaitin , " eport924 " <eport924> wrote:

> Greetings Advaitins,

>

> I'm writing because I am wondering what place bliss has in the

> teachings of Advaita. I know that many masters describe the Nature

of

> God or the Absolute as existence-consciousness-bliss, but I've

read

> conflicting accounts relating to the bliss part. Some teachers or

> masters talk of neverending bliss and ectasy, while others talk of

> great peace, stillness, and silence, but not necessarily of bliss.

 

Namaste N,

 

Sat-Cit-Ananada are called qualities by Ramana Maharshi, another

name could be attributes. So we are talking of Bliss as a quality of

Brahman, but this is only of Saguna Brahman or Sakti. One can be in

a non-dual state or samadhi experiencing Bliss and one with

everything that is projected.

 

However this is also an illusion for 'it never happened at all'

there is only Nirguna Brahman, which is a description of the

inexplicable in the negative. Peace, Stillness and Silence indicate

a negative description.....Bliss is actually the last

impediment...............ONS....Tony.

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advaitajnana , João Vieira <vivekaprema@g...>

wrote:

> In such state who is there to say I´m in a blissfull state? It´s a

non-state.

> Is more like peace... otherwise its still duality... blissfull and

> miserable and such state is total non-dual.

> Hare Rama

>

> 2005/8/2, Tony OClery <aoclery>:

> > advaitin , " eport924 " <eport924>

wrote:

> > > Greetings Advaitins,

> > >

> > > I'm writing because I am wondering what place bliss has in the

> > > teachings of Advaita. I know that many masters describe the

Nature

> > of

> > > God or the Absolute as existence-consciousness-bliss, but I've

> > read

> > > conflicting accounts relating to the bliss part. Some teachers

or

> > > masters talk of neverending bliss and ectasy, while others

talk of

> > > great peace, stillness, and silence, but not necessarily of

bliss.

> >

> > Namaste N,

> >

> > Sat-Cit-Ananada are called qualities by Ramana Maharshi, another

> > name could be attributes. So we are talking of Bliss as a

quality of

> > Brahman, but this is only of Saguna Brahman or Sakti. One can be

in

> > a non-dual state or samadhi experiencing Bliss and one with

> > everything that is projected.

> >

> > However this is also an illusion for 'it never happened at all'

> > there is only Nirguna Brahman, which is a description of the

> > inexplicable in the negative. Peace, Stillness and Silence

indicate

> > a negative description.....Bliss is actually the last

> > impediment...............ONS....Tony.

advaitin , Manuel Delaflor <delaflor@g...>

wrote:

> I asked in another thread, about my personal " last impediment " ,

but in

> my case it is not Bliss, but an inconmensurable Fear, about loosing

> the human form, about the " nothingness " , " egoless " state that is

left.

 

Namaste M,

 

Fear is not the last impediment really but the first IMHO it is the

most common to all beings. Based on the fear of being separated from

our true selves or 'God' or whatever you believe.

Attachment to the form is just the Ego and fear of extinction, it

can be thought of another way, an expansion to our reality rather

than an extinction. The Egoless state is achieved at two levels at

the same time, union with everything or Sakti/Praneaswara and the

realisation of Nirguna, so there is nothing to be afraid of. The Ego

will be found to be a thief in the palace a non-existent mind

entity. Nothing really ever happened ultimately...........ONS...Tony.

 

PS. If you lived as a pig or a mouse and liked it for a while, but

realised you were really a human. Would you be scared to come back

to being a human or would you be attached to your mouse

things.?..Tony

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advaitajnana , João Vieira <vivekaprema@g...>

wrote:

> In such state who is there to say I´m in a blissfull state? It´s a

non-state.

> Is more like peace... otherwise its still duality... blissfull and

> miserable and such state is total non-dual.

> Hare Rama

 

 

Namaste,

 

Yes I do agree but we talk relative and absolute sometimes. Bliss is

an attribute that is experienced so truth is beyond experience-----Nir

Vana Nir Guna................ONS...Tony.