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advaitin , " Nathan Port " <eport924> wrote:

> Dear members,

>

> I'm writing because I recently read an interview with U.G.

Krishnamurti

> that has left me a little unsettled. In this interview, available

at

> realization.org, U.G. Krishnamurti talks about his life events,

> including his so-called enlightenment. Some of his statements that

are

> disturbing to me are the ones where he says that if people knew

what

> enlightenment was like, they wouldn't want it. His entire account

seems

> full of suffering and bizarre events. Even at the end, there is no

> mention by him of peace or anything positive.

>

> I would be interested in reading the opinions and insights of the

> members on this person.

>

> Regards,

> Nathan

 

Namaste,

 

Simply put, of course people with desires don't want enlightenment,

it is a desireless, mindless, and attributeless state--inexplicable.

Many people who claim to be non dual also do not with the pure Nir

Guna state, they aim for the Sakti/Saguna State of Sat-Cit-Ananada.

Any trace of modification whether it be Sakti or Mind is not full

realisation. Many people prefer the Savikalpa Samadhi to the

Nirvikalpa for there is nothing to enjoy or remember/ecstasy in

Nirvikalpa. So of course the unenlightened with a mind will not want

true Moksha for in the first place the samskaras prevent lucidity,

then mix in loss of ego-identity and you have the dominant fear of

prevention right there.

 

The Ego will do anything to survive, it drives the mind mad, and can

even kill the body in its desire to keep its delusional existence.

 

That is why the expression that we must use a thorn to remove a

thorn.........At the right time and with enough Sadhana and

Purification.........ONS...Tony.

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