Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: GuruRatings , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > > His ability to acheive samadhi or awakening into nonduality did > not prevent him from being deluded in duality. > > These epics are thousands of years old, so of course the things > we are discussing here are as old as the hills. Clearly the > enlightened sages from times past have laid it out : there are > levels of awakening, there are degrees of embodiment. > > devi: the story i heard was that before ravana incarnated as ravana > he was given two choices. the first choice was to be a regular human > being slowly balancing his psoitive and negative sanskaras and take > a few more lifetimes before getting liberated and the second choice > was to be the evil king ravana, use up all his negative samskaras in > this one lifetime and be liberated in that lifetime... Namaste, Unfortunately using up evil samskaras just pours oil on the fire and creates more samskaras and karma. Going into samadhis is no more being enlightened than going to deep sleep everynight. Yes he was a Siva devotee, but more than likely 'little siva', not big Siva/Self. In those days everyone worshipped something, even had human sacrifices. The age of this epic is probably circa 150,000 years BCE, going by Cayce's calculations anyway. Some others say at least 20,000 BCE. A long time ago anyway.....ONS..Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: GuruRatings , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: >> t: Unfortunately using up evil samskaras just pours oil on the fire > and creates more samskaras and karma. > > d: for the ordinary person i agree but ravana was a very high being > and getting slayed by rama (they must have had some heavy bonding at > some point)was a great boon...liberating...i think the same applies to > judas...in the new testament... > > > t: Going into samadhis is no more being enlightened than going to deep > sleep everynight. > > d. there are alot of different kinds of samadhis some that end up in > that place you love to talk about where creation never happened.. > > t: Yes he was a Siva devotee, but more than likely 'little siva', not > big Siva/Self. In those days everyone worshipped something, even had > human sacrifices. > > d: i think he was a sita devotee :-) Namaste D,IMHO, There are only beings that are liberated and those that are not. High Being, is a subjective observation at least, samskaras are samskaras. Ram was an Avatar and being killed by him would make no spiritual significance but in myth. This story, although based on the Rama Empire-Atlantis/Avshin? wars of that time is now pretty mythical and allegorical. Samadhis are temporary whilst samkaras last and the Buddhi is unpurified...The story is a teaching myth based on truth and legend.....ONS..Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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