It doesn't matter what we eat????????

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advaitajnana

 

Namaste,

 

I am still waiting for the debaters from the

 

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I can't rely on my reply for I was moderated, a weak act, for

upsetting the choir. It seems that's what they are, for they

obviously don't want to debate me personally, but are singing to the

other choir members in the congregation. This is also the ego

talking in the defence of cognitive dissonance re meat eating and

being on the spiritual path. I don't know whether it is the acclaim

of the audience they want or to impress harsha, but it isn't to

answer me.

 

I will state again that I am only talking about self proclaimed

spiritual seekers not the ordinary people or primitives. They know

no better and haven't read about Ahimsa etc. THEY ARE NOT

HYPOCRITES.

 

Zenbob with his verbal non dualism, vndism, is doing a good job of

mental gymnastics again, mixing his apples and oranges all up to

preserve his desire to eat meat and ignore the suffering, of the

animal.

 

Lastly I have never seen a post where Ramana or any of his known

devotees extolled the eating of meat or the cruelty involved. Ramana

was known to protect his ashram pets from the attacks of other

animals but never with violence as such.

 

 

 

> , " Tony OClery "

<aoclery>

> wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> Some say it doesn't matter what we eat. However does the cruelty

of

> the slaughterhouse and the terror of the animal matter??..This is

the

> cognitive disfunction of many on the spiritual path. Their level

of

> awareness through purification of the vijnanamayakosa is not high

> enough. This ability of the human mind to filter out this bad

> information about death, slaughter and cruelty in favour of

satisfying

> an eogistic desire to suage one's palate and addiction is nothing

> short

> of amazing.

>

> I don't extend this to the non spiritual seekers as they don't

pretend

> or know to be any better...........ONS..Tony.

>

> --- End forwarded message ---

>

, Harsha wrote:

>

> *Tony, Tony, Tony. The food issue is a tough issue and we should

drop

> it. We all know what we know and we feel what we feel and that's

how it

> is. There is no point in justifying views or attacking those of

others

> by calling one of their koshas impure and all that because of

their

> diet. Ultimately it is an issue of control. We cannot control the

> preferences and conditioning of others. We see the conditioning of

> others through our own conditioning and we cannot even change our

 

Namaste,

 

Very good Harsha!!!I don't regard myself as having a completely

purified vijnanamayakosa, far from it. I don't condemn people for

eating meat if that is their level of understanding and they claim

no Daya or compassion. I don't condemn the ordinary person or the

primitives.

 

I have just wondered what the psychological cause was of this

obvious and fatal disconnect. I have finally come to the conclusion

it is moved by the same conditioning as the 'True Believer

Sydndrome' and 'Cognitive Dissonance'. As Zenbob pointed out Hitler

suffered from it. They don't fit exactly perhaps a psychologist can

give me an explanation of this amazing displacement. I would prefer

not to say that spiritual meat eaters suffered from the 'Hitler

Sydnrome', a condition of denial and vicarious violence.

 

I was interested in the debate and how the Ego handles it; it is a

window into the mind. As you say a food fight inevitably ends up

like this for people do not want to discuss their failings or wanton

desires. The ego rationalises everything away but the death agony

and scream of an innocent animal..........ONS..Tony.

http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/AVEGETARIANandAHIMSA.htm

 

I WAS CENSORED FOR THIS RESPONSE/

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MillionPaths , " Tony OClery " <aoclery>

wrote:

 

MillionPaths , " Tony OClery " <aoclery>

wrote:

>

> My site;

>

>

> advaitajnana

>

> Namaste,

>

> I am still waiting for the debaters from the

>

> /

 

Namaste,

 

This kind of cognitive dissonance with meat eating leads to the

same dissonace that world leaders like dubya, bin laden etc use to

assuage their consciences whilst being responsible for many many

deaths of innocents..........ONS...

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Still waiting obviously unfortunately I was right...Tony.--- In

advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote:

>

> My site;

>

>

> advaitajnana

>

> Namaste,

>

> I am still waiting for the debaters from the

>

> /

>

> I can't rely on my reply for I was moderated, a weak act, for

> upsetting the choir. It seems that's what they are, for they

> obviously don't want to debate me personally, but are singing to

the

>