TONY WANT TO SEE SOME MORE?????

[Guest guest]

JUST ASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

RASA INTERVIEW OF JERRY KATZ ON ADVAITA, SWAMI G

TastingSugar/

 

HIS ANSWERS FORTHCOMING

 

(Rasa:***)

 

HOW ABOUT SWAMI G? CAN I BORROW SOME OF HERS AND SEND IT TO YOU? SHE

IS A FRIEND OF MINE..............

Jerry Katz:

 

....I don't need to see either article.

 

To me Swami G, like many other gurus, is a dominant seeking submissives.

*** WOOOOOOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAS JESUS A DOMINANT SEEKING SUBMISSIVES, RAMAKRISHNA DITTO & ALL THE

GREAT GURUS & SAINTS WHO SOUGHT TO SAVE SOULS & BRING THEM ENLIGHTENMENT?

ARE YOU SAYING THEY WERE ALL VICTIM TO SOME SICK OR NON SPIRITUAL

HUMAN NEED WHERE THEY HAD TO DOMINATE PEOPLE FOR NEGATIVE

PSYCHOLOGICAL REASONS?

 

Jerry Katz:

There is certainly a place for that relationship in all realms of

existence, however it is the great I AM playing out in a way which I

do not care to represent on my email lists.

 

*** CAN THE GREAT I AM HAPPEN WITHOUT INSTRUCTION AND TRANSMISSION OF

SHAKTI OR HOLY SPIRIT?

 

CAN A CHILD GROW UP WITHOUT MOTHER'S MILK, PROTECTION, INSTRUCTION AND

EDIFICATION? WHAT KIND OF HUMAN IS BORN AND BECOMES INDEPENDENT AT

THE MOMENT OF BIRTH? ARE WE NOT DEPENDENT UNTIL WE DEVELOP ENOUGH TO

STAND ON OUR OWN FEET?

 

A SPIRITUAL SEEKER IS ALSO BORN AGAIN & DRINKS THE SPIRITUAL MILK OF

THE GURU UNTIL HE/SHE CAN STAND ON HER OWN FEET AND BECOME A SOLID

SPIRITUAL POWER, PERHAPS A GURU ON THEIR OWN

 

Just a matter of taste and not a judgment of what is absolutely

correct or incorrect or whether any guru is 'good' or 'bad'.

I hope you will post other stuff!

 

*** I AM EAGERLY AWAITING YOUR REPLY AS I SEE YOU AS A LEADER OF THE

NONDUALIST COMMUNITY......SURELY, THEY CANNOT ALL AGREE WITH YOU?

THAT WOULD SEEM MONSTROUS - TO THINK THAT JERRY KATZ & ALL THE STRONG

NONDUALISTS BELIEVE THE SEEKER CAN GO STRAIGHT TO GOD WITHOUT GURU,

TRANSMISSION, SHAKTIPAT, THE GRACE OF THE GURU?

WILL YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE SEEKER GOES FROM SQUARE ONE TO

ENLIGHTENMENT WITHOUT THE TRANSMISSION OF THE GURU POWER (LIVING OR

'DEAD' GURU.) CAN AN ASPIRANT USING HIS OWN POWER OF MEDITATION AND

OTHER PRACTICES, WITHOUT THE IMAGE OF A DIETY OR GOD, SIMPLY ASCEND

INTO HEAVEN? THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE DANGEROUS THINKING, (FORGIVE ME

FOR SAYING THIS BECAUSE I DO LOVE YOU) AS IT COULD CONFUSE AND DERAIL

ASPIRANTS INTO THINKING THEY CAN DO IT BY THEMSELVES. THEY MAY WAKE

UP 20-30 YEARS HENCE AND DISCOVER HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE WASTED!

 

I ALSO SEE THIS SORT OF THINKING IN THE 'SARLO GURU RATINGS'

MENTALITY. SOME OF THESE MEN ARE 'UNRIPE,' 'UNDERCOOKED' AND HALF

BAKED. AND YET, THEY PONTIFICATE ABOUT THE NATURE OF GOD, AS IF THEY

UNDERSTOOD IT, THAT GOD IS ALL IN ALL, EVERYTHING, WE ARE ALL GOD.

AND WITH JODY, IT ENDS UP WITH THE IMAGE THAT HIS DOG'S _SS IS GOD.

THIS KIND OF THINKING IS NOT WHAT ADVAITA IS. (IS IT?) WHEN SWAMI G

WENT TO THEM THEY STONED HER VERBALLY AND SHE GAVE UP INTERACTING WITH

THEM, COVERED WITH INSULTS AND GIVING THEM UP FOR LOST. SWAMI IS ONE

OF THE GREATEST EXPERTS ON ADVAITA ON THE NET, AND THESE GUYS COULD

NOT APPRECIATE HER.

 

I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE SWAMI G AS SHE IS A SATGURU, AN

EXPONENT OF REAL TRUTH, AND SHE DOES HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I ALSO HAVE ANSWERS BUT HERE I WILL NOT EXPOUND THEM AND SIMPLY AWAIT

WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.....INFINITE LOVE TO YOU (RASA)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

love you,

jerry

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" Jerry Katz " <umbada

" Rasa Von Werder " <rasa

Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:13 PM

Message not approved: GURUS, HOLY SOULS AND THEIR DEVOTEES.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN SL

 

Hi again Rasa,

 

Not appropriate. The guru/devotee relationship is another twist on the

dominance/submission dynamic that plays out on all levels of life,

from the bedroom to the boardroom to the ashram. Some people love to

be dominant. Some love to be submissive. Some like to be a little of

both. I just don't want to hear about it on my list.

 

Jerry