Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: GuruRatings , " Durga " <durgaji108> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Gene Poole " <gene_poole@q...> > wrote: > > > > > " Durga " <durgaji108> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > If one doesn't like the word 'laws,' one could > > > substitute, (as Swami Krishna Murthy did), the phrase > > > 'Divine order' > > > > As well as I can see, there is nothing but > > order. I hesitate to imply 'Divine', but > > I guess it is ok for Bhakti types... > > > > > > > Or as I once heard Swami Dayananda say, > > > " If you want to see Ishwara in > > > operation, look around you. " > > > > No kidding! > > > > > > > All this is meant to say that within duality, > > > within time and space (and everything that takes > > > place therein, whether available to seen by our eyes or > > > not, which would include subtle realms) there is > > > an order. > > > > Indeed so; perhaps 'the' order. > snip > > > > Durga > > > > There are no exceptions. > > > > > > ==GP== > > Hello Gene, > > I had been meaning to get back to you about the phrase > 'divine order' as Swami Krishna Murthy used it. I don't > think that he used the word, 'divine,' as a bhakta, per > se, but rather to differentiate what you are calling > 'the order' from the individual's mind's interpretation > of 'the order.' > > Swami Krishna Murthy also used the words, 'projection' and > 'reflection,' in relation to the creation, which I wrote > about a while back. 'Projection' being the individual's > interpretation of events. > > Here's an extreme example of projection: One walks out the > door, and a bird poop's on one's head. > > An example of 'projection' would be the individual > saying (and believing it as well), " That bird doesn't > like me. " > > Whereas the actual interpretation of the event is > really that God didn't like that guy. (Just kidding) > > So in using the word 'divine' in conjunction the word > 'order,' I think what Swami KM was trying to differentiate, > the way things are, from the way the individual's > mind takes them to be. > > And of course, the details of 'the way things are,' > the particular workings of the whole, cannot be grasped > by the individual mind. Although the individual mind > can trust that there is indeed an order in events > as they unfold. > > So I think that's what Swami KM was trying to show > by using the phrase, 'divine order'. > > Best wishes, > Durga > Namaste, Is it not a question of balance and action and reaction or karma? There is no law really just the law of action/reaction. At the base level of mineral /creation' of the 'illusory universe' it is just almost 'chaos' , particles balancing out energies and gravities. I see no 'Divine Order' at all. If an innocent animal suffers greatly with no bad karma,to serve. where is 'Divine Order' or 'God'. It things like that which make me believe there is no God doing anything but witnessing and in the end that is also an illusion..............Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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