Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 advaitajnana , " Mark Hovila " <hovila@c...> wrote: > really misunderstood him. " > > > > Godman also tells a story of his meeting Laskshamana Swamy, a > supposedly realized disciple of Ramana. He says, " Up till the time I > first met him, I had been meditating intensively for most of the day > for a period of about eighteen months. My mind was fairly quiet most > of the time and I really felt that I was making good progress on the > road to Self-realization. However, within a few seconds of being > looked at by Lakshmana Swamy, I was in a state of stillness and peace > that was way beyond anything that I had experienced through my own > efforts. That one darshan effectively demonstrated to me the need for > a human Guru. " > > > > Words such as the above quite naturally lead some people to believe > that it is far more important to sit in the presence of a realized > guru rather than to do meditation, self-inquiry, philosophical > inquiry, etc. Are they wrong? > > > > I'd be interested to know what anyone here thinks about this. > > > > Mark > Namaste, A Guru of some kind is necessary on the early path. Eventually one has to use only the 'Inner Guru'. Ramana taught by example, so his Guru was a mountain, all being 'God', a point of concentration for the Inner Guru. Same with Lakshmana Swamy, it is one's own Inner Peace that is felt whilst relaxing in their company....ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 This just in: Talk 171. To another question Master said: The best is heart to heart speech and heart to heart hearing. That is the best upadesa. D.: Is not guidance from Guru necessary? M.: Are you apart from Guru? D.: Is proximity helpful? M.: Do you mean physical proximity? What is the good of it? The mind alone matters. The mind must be contacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 advaitajnana , " Mark Hovila " <hovila@c...> wrote: > > This just in: > > > > > Talk 171. > To another question Master said: The best is heart to heart speech and heart > to heart hearing. That is the best upadesa. > > D.: Is not guidance from Guru necessary? > > M.: Are you apart from Guru? > > D.: Is proximity helpful? > > M.: Do you mean physical proximity? What is the good of it? The mind > alone matters. The mind must be contacted. > Namaste, Yes it is like two lumps of ice in a pond, one is the Guru and the other is the disciple. The disciple thinks the Guru gives him water when they are both in water.Once when asked about someone who didn't have a Guru, Ramana referred to the Inner Self as his Guru.........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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