Fwd: Before Hydrogen

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GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery

wrote:

 

GuruRatings , " Michael Bowes " <aumshanti@>

wrote:

>

>

> [MB]

> Tony,

>

> When ONE experiences Nirvikalpa Samahdi, the outer world

disappears

> temporarily while the blessed jiva is immersed in the unmanifest

and

> infinite ocean of Brahman, the source of ALL. After that

experience

> ONE knows that the universe is Brahman itself and that Brahman is

the

> only source of the universe. But the universe is not a creation,

it

> is Brahman itSELF.

>

> One might, I stress might, get some idea of it from this crude

> analogy. The root system of the tree is similar in shape to the

> trunk and branches. If the tree is cut down, the root will

usually

> re-manifest the tree. The root lives for the tree and the tree

lives

> because of the root. They are bound together for the sake of the

> whole.

>

> There's nothing wrong with manifest existence. I think that the

only

> problem is that traditional Hinduism and Vedanta is rife with

> escapism. Escapism suites a great number of individuals who are

> bewildered, terrified, confused or unhappy with life.

>

> Sri Ramakrishna said,

>

> Before the realization of Brahman the jnani considers the world to

be

> unreal; but after the realization of Brahman one knows that it is

> Brahman alone that has become the living beings, the world, the 24

> cosmic principles, and the universe.

>

Namaste M,

 

Yes what you say is about Nirvikalpa Samadhi but not about Sahaja

Nirvikalpa Samadhi, where there is no experience, or when the Mukta

drops the body. It is not escapism but penetrating Ajativadic

philosophy, it is Self Enquiry. I didn't say there was anything

wrong with manifest existence I just deny it ever happened. For

where does it go on Sahaja or bodiless Moksha?

 

What you are talking about is a step within the concept of Saguna to

try and explain the inexplicable....ONS..Tony.

 

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