Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 --- , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " Susan " <skylarkwalk@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Talking relatively within illusion, Karma is memory that's all. > The > > fact that we are not aware of Prarabda at the individual level, > only > > strengthens the fact that there is only ONE illusory mind planning > > things. Karmic memory is all about balance,carrot and stick, so > the > > incarnating Ego learns lessons. Why? so it can develop one > > pointedness and balance, which enables the awareness level to > > operate more effectively. This results in the eventual Self > Enquiry > > leading to the merging of the illusory individual 'I' into the 'I- > > I'. At this point both Saguna and Nirguna are realised, > > simultaneously.........ONS..Tony. > > > > Hello Tony ~~ > > Here's a question. What do you call the > " ONE illusory mind planning things " ? > > Sending you all good wishes ~~ Susan > Namaste,S. IMHO, This is the universal mind or kundalini, consisting of everything. This is the illulsory appearance projection of the Sakti or Saguna Brahman. It runs by itself on karma without any interference from Sakti which provides the universal energy but not will to act. Saguna is the Sakshin or witness only..........ONS...Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > --- , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Susan " <skylarkwalk@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Talking relatively within illusion, Karma is memory that's all. > > The > > > fact that we are not aware of Prarabda at the individual level, > > only > > > strengthens the fact that there is only ONE illusory mind > planning > > > things. Karmic memory is all about balance,carrot and stick, so > > the > > > incarnating Ego learns lessons. Why? so it can develop one > > > pointedness and balance, which enables the awareness level to > > > operate more effectively. This results in the eventual Self > > Enquiry > > > leading to the merging of the illusory individual 'I' into > the 'I- > > > I'. At this point both Saguna and Nirguna are realised, > > > simultaneously.........ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > Hello Tony ~~ > > > > Here's a question. What do you call the > > " ONE illusory mind planning things " ? > > > > Sending you all good wishes ~~ Susan > > > Namaste,S. IMHO, > > This is the universal mind or kundalini, consisting of everything. > This is the illulsory appearance projection of the Sakti or Saguna > Brahman. It runs by itself on karma without any interference from > Sakti which provides the universal energy but not will to act. > Saguna is the Sakshin or witness only..........ONS...Tony. > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > ok... this is where my confusion comes > in... you seem to work hard to demonstrate > a sort of atheism, which is fine. The strange > thing to me is your non-belief has more > rules than a religion. Would you describe > yourself as an atheist? > > **curious** ~~ Susan > Namaste S, This is the paradox the dichotomy the dualism the non dualism. Speaking relatively which is all we can truly do, the mind has many ideas or rules or memories. I was absorbed into Hinduism and Vedanta for many years so I picked up ideas and vocabulary. Eventually I picked up philosophy, which allows me to discuss relatively and otherwise at the same time, without truly mixing apples and oranges to any great extent. I'm not an Atheist for I accept the concept of Nirguna Brahman. I only extend validity to Saguna and Creation as long as I have not realised that I am realised. So if I am talking within illusion, I will use all the terms and tools available but not accept they are the ultimate truth. If I go out and hit the wall, my illusory hand will be injured in the delusory world. Ultimately there is no hand or wall. So I'm not working to demonstrate Atheism but AjatiVada, 'It never happened'; However as Sankara said, it is real enough whilst one is in it. Ultimately I negate anything of the mind, all its karmas, beliefs and useful or not so useful rules and guides..........ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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