Fwd: The corruptibility of the Varna and Inequality in Varna - excerpts from the posts

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advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati "

<dhyanasaraswati wrote:

 

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Sankaraman avargale:

 

Dear sir, please go back and read my post one more time. It was not

i

who was saying sri Ramana is a SANYASI' - i was merely quoting Sri

Satguru swamiji . I was quoting swamiji to establish the difference

between two types of sanyasa. (vividisa and vidwat sanyasa)

 

 

Jivanmuktas like sri Ramana maharishi NEED NOT TAKE SANYAS -you are

right.

 

Sri Ramana says

 

" Renunciation does not imply apparent divesting of costumes, family

ties, homes, etc., but renunciation of desires, affection and

attachment. There is no need to resign your job, only resign

yourself

to God, the bearer of the burden of all.

 

One who renounces desires actually merges in the world and expands

his love to the whole universe. Expansion of love and affection

would

be a far better term for a true devotee of God than renunciation,

for

one who renounces the immediate ties actually extends the bonds of

affection and love to a wider world beyond the borders of caste,

creed and race.

 

A sannyasi (wandering monk) who apparently casts away his clothes

and

leaves his home does not do so out of aversion to his immediate

relations but because of the expansion of his love to others around

him. When this expansion comes, one does not feel that one is

running

away from home, instead one drops from it like a ripe fruit from a

tree.Till then it would be folly to leave one's home or job. "

 

Sri Ramana goes on to say

'

" Renunciation is always in the mind, not in going to forests or

solitary places or giving up one's duties. The main thing is to see

that the mind does not turn outward but inward. It does not rest

with

a man whether he goes to this place or that place or whether he

gives

up his duties or not. All these events happen according to destiny.

All the activities that the body is to go through are determined

when

it first comes into existence. It does not rest with you to accept

or

reject them. The only freedom you have is to turn your mind inward

and renounce activities there. "

 

(http://www.hinduism.co.za/renuncia.htm )

 

Sankararamanji - as usual, you make some wonderful points and i am

amazed by the 'depth' of knowledge in your posts . Thanks for reming

us about Saint Mastan ....

 

sir, have you been to Kanchi? right next to the Kanchi mutt is a

Mosque ... do you know that in the mutt , the gurukula boys will be

chanting the vedic mantras and at the sametime the loudspeakers from

the Mosque will be broadcasting 'ALLA-HU AKBAR' ... funny part

is 'om' and 'hu' are both beautiful chants .

 

Kabir das-ji sings

 

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

 

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

 

then who is there to know what happens whithout?

 

Hari is in the East: Allah is in the West. Look within your heart,

 

for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

 

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

 

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

 

regards

 

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