Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 advaitin , kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: In the last post we have concluded that Vedas use `converse' statements to show that satyam jnaanam and anantam are swarUpa laxaNas of Brahman and not attributes of Brahman. ----------- Coming back to the discussion of objects, we have established that objects can be defined only through their attributes. Attributes differentiates one object from the other. Extending this statement further, only objects have attributes. Conversely, that which has attributes must be an object. In addition, only finites can have attributes since the attributes differentiate one object from the others. Thus, objects are not only limited by other objects but are also limited by space and time (desha kaala vastu paricchinnam). From these statements, we derive two conclusions. Brahman which is infiniteness or limitless cannot have attributes, for 1) it is not finite to have attributes and 2) it is one without a second. There is no second to differentiate Brahman from other objects. Hence, sat – chit – ananda are to be recognized as not even LakshaNas of Brahman – but we use the terms as upAya for Upadesha, that is, they used for the purpose of teaching as tools to facilitate the student of Vedanta to reject that which is not sat or not chit or not ananda as not Brahman. It is similar to defining infinity in mathematics. Mathematically, the very word infinity is not description of infinity but it is mere exclusion of any finite as not infinite. If infinity is describable then it is no more infinite. Thus, that which is asat (not present eternally), that which is achit (inert), and that which is AnAnanda (unhappiness) cannot be Brahman. In principle, absolute infiniteness cannot be defined. There are local infinities such as `pi' or `e' , or parallel lines etc in Math. However, these are finite infinites or one-dimensional infinities (here dimension means aspect rather than spatial dimension). Brahman means infinite from all aspects. It is absolutely infinite without any limitations what so ever. Scriptures call Brahman as nirguNa or attributeless. Since attributes differentiate (or exclude) one object from the other, such an absolute infiniteness cannot exclude anything, since by exclusion it ceases to be absolutely infinite. Brahman should be all-inclusive, since it is infinite. Hence, scripture defines as satyam jnaanam anantam brahma – that which is eternal, and that which is pure knowledge, and that which is infinite is Brahman. We have already noted in the beginning that pure knowledge cannot be defined. The scripture provides us the reason, since pure knowledge is nothing but Brahman itself, which is indefinable as it is attributeless or more precisely it is non-objectifiable. As a slight diversion, we may note that Bhagavaan Ramanuja explains nirguNa as durguNa rahita. That is, Brahman does not have any bad qualities, whereas for an advaitin nirguNa means guNa atIta that is Brahman is beyond the concepts of guNa, since all concepts are finite. Any conceptualization is finitization. Instead, Bhagavaan Ramanuja defines Brahman as ananta kalyANa guNa Ashhraya. That is, Brahman is the locus of infinite auspicious qualities. Here the auspicious qualities are infinite and the extent of each quality is infinite. Thus, Brahman is locus of infinite love, infinite compassions, etc. If one examines these critically, infinite cannot be measured or quantifiable. Therefore, human mind cannot comprehend the qualities that Brahman has. Close examination shows that the definition that Bhagavaan Ramanuja provides is not much different from Advaitin's analysis of nirguNa. Description as locus of infinite auspicious qualities however provides the mind a positive vision for contemplation and meditation so that those auspicious qualities that one admires can become one with the meditator. It provides an Alambanam (something to hold on) for the mind during meditation. However, advaitic interpretation matches with the Vedic statements involving `neti, neti ...not this, not this.' wherein all this, this, this are rejected which are quantifiable through guNas or qualities. By rejecting all that which has guNas one gets absorbed into that which is beyond human comprehension. Vedantic definitions are therefore very precise and self-consistent (samanvaya). We may also note that not only Brahman cannot be defined, the subject `I' also cannot be defined. Any attempts to define the subject will make it as an object and not a subject any more. Since the definitions are only in terms of attributes, definability only rests with objects. Since subject is not an object and can never become an object for analysis, it has no attributes either. Only operational definition that can be given for subject `I' in the spirit of neti, neti, is `subject is that which cannot be objectified' – this is not a definition but helps to negate all the objects or all those that can be objectifiable or attributable as `not I'. The reason becomes clear. `I am' is existent-conscious entity and by definition of `prajnaanam brahman – its identity with Brahman is established. Therefore, it is also `sat-chit-ananda', which is the swaruupa lakshaNa for Brahman. The Vedic statement `aham brahmaasmi – I am Brahman' follows. As we will see that mAnDUkya upaniShad is going to reinforce this identity with the statement `ayam aatma brahman', the self that 'I am' is Brahman. MAnDUkya upaniShad in mantra 7 provides a brilliant description for realization of ones own nature or nature of Brahman in meditation. Thus, we can see that all Vedic statements are logically self-consistent. Before we proceed further, we need to recognize that Brahman being absolutely infinite it cannot exclude anything since any exclusion compromises its infinite nature. We also recognize that Brahman is consciousness, which is infinite. Hence, it cannot include anything that is unconscious or inert. On the other hand, objects and thus the world is inert or achetana vastu. How do we resort these two contradictory requirements without compromising the all-pervasive conscious aspect of Brahman on one side, and the existence of inert world on the other. This aspect will be addressed later. We may state, however, that Bhagavaan Ramanuja brings these two aspects and synthesizes by proposing a vishiShTa advaita with all-inclusive oneness of Brahman but with internal diversity. To do that he has to resort to consciousness as adjective or attributive knowledge from the point of jiivas (dharma bhuuta jnaana) while keeping self-consciousness of the jiivas as intrinsic knowledge of the jiivas (dharmi jnaana). This dualistic consciousness becomes inevitable in his approach in order to accommodate the inert world as eternal existent entity. Here in Ramanuja's approach the inertness of the world is preserved as part of Brahman along with self-conscious jiivas, both constituting the totality of Brahman like organs of the cosmic being, virAt puruSha. From totality point, it is one (advaita) but from intrinsic point Brahman has internal diversity with multiple jiivas and jagat as part of His total body. Just as my `I-ness' pervades throughout the body, the `I- ness' of Paramaatma pervades the entire cosmic body, each part and cell of the body. The Vedic statement `antaryAmin' or indweller is utilized to prove that conscious Brahman is indweller of chit swaruupa jiivas and achit swaruupa jagat. That the consciousness is all-pervading, and at the same time the statement that it is an `indweller or antaryAmin' appear to be a contradiction. To avoid this contradiction, it is emphasized that it is not so in the model proposed using the analogy of the individual soul, which is an indweller of the body, still pervades the body. In vishiShTAdvaita, the self consciousness or dharmi jnaanam is inherent with the jiiva as chaitanya swaruupa. However, dharma bhuuta jnaana is acquired as the jiiva evolves towards moxa. This jnAnam or knowledge which is not purusha tantra (cannot be willed) is gained at the grace of ParamAtma using which one becomes aware of the ones dependence on paramAtma and also will be conscious of (by dharma bhuuta jnaana) His infinite glory, sharing His infinite happiness. With this background, let us examine now more closely how the knowledge of an object takes place, since the reality of the jagat is intimately related to it. Senses can only measure the attributes or qualities of an object; color and form by the eyes, sound by the ears, hardness and texture by the touch, taste by the tongue, and smell by the nose. These are the only measurable qualities by the five senses. Object has its attributes, yet object is different from its attributes. It is true that without the attributes the object cannot be defined. However, attributes themselves are not the object but it is their locus. There are different theories of how attributes and the locus of the attributes are interrelated. Examination of the perceptual process indicates that senses can only measure (they are called maatraas) attributes but cannot grasp the substantive. Since knowledge can take place only via senses, the absolute knowledge of the object does not exist, other than the knowledge of its attributes. Knowledge of any object is essentially attributive knowledge, rather than absolute knowledge. This fact becomes clearer when we examine the substantive of the objects. Since senses cannot grasp the substantive of an object, the substantive knowledge is not available through perception. Since inference (anumaana pramANa) as a means of knowledge also rests on pratyaxa pramANa for validation, one cannot gain substantive knowledge of the objects and hence the knowledge of the world using inference. Only resort is the shaastra pramANa or Veda pramANa. Vedas indicate that substantive of every object and hence the world is nothing but Brahman, (sarvam kalvidam brahma1), which is of the nature of consciousness-existence. Brahman is the material cause (upaadAna kAraNa) in addition to being efficient and instrumental cause (nimitta kAraNa). Hence, substantive knowledge of any object and thus the world involves knowledge of Brahman. Brahman cannot be known either by perception or by inference. Thus, analysis of the perceptual process and recognition that we can only have attributive knowledge and not substantive knowledge are further confirmed by Veda-s. The mAnDUkya upaniShad will be reinforcing the above analysis. 1(I get complaints from our friends that we are not quoting the complete statement of the shRiti – The statement is `sarvam khalvidam brahma tajjalAniti shAnta upAsIta| " Ch-3.14.1. – Meaning – " All this, in fact, is Brahman; From this everything comes, into this everything disappears and by this or on this everything is sustained " . The full statement reinforces the Ti. Up. Statement `yato vaa imaani bhuutani jaayante … " further confirming that Brahman is the material cause for the universe of objects that can be pointed out as idam, idam, this, this,.. - sarvam, thus the entire universe. The part quoted above makes the essence that all `this, idams' are nothing but Brahman. Any other explanations not withstanding, we are not deviating from the intended meaning of the scriptures by not fully quoting the upaniShad's mantra. Another complaint is that we only quote quarter of the sloka `neha nanAsti kincana' – the full line is " manasaivAnupadraShTavyam, neha nAnAsti kicana| " Br. Up. 4-4-19. It means through mind alone the truth (Brahman) has to be realized, there are no internal differences what so ever in that Brahman – As we shall see that manDUkya UpaniShad zeroes on this statement. This is precisely what is being discussed above related to the mental cognition of the self and the world of objects since Brahman is the material cause for everything, and internal differences one sees in the mind are only apparent and not real, since in Brahman there are no internal differences. The word `anudraShTavyam' implies that to see this fact one needs a deeper analysis or inquiry. The second part of the sloka that was not quoted above pertains to what happens to those who mistake that there are internal differences in Brahman. Let us recognize that dvaitins and vishiShTa Advaitins have different interpretations for the above statements, with which obviously they seem to be happy.) Analyzing further, in gaining the attributive knowledge, in addition to the sense input, there is a transactional utility of the object that was perceived through the senses. This is acquired as the child grows from childhood and learns, based on the transactional utility of the object. This helps to conclude that there is an object out there with the attributes that have been measured by the senses. Thus, name and form together get stored as attributive objective knowledge. This becomes precursor for all transactions or vyavahaara. Mentally, the object `out there' is recognized as the thought of an object in the mind with all the associated attributes: form, color, smell, taste, etc. Here, we are not concerned about the details of the relation between the attributes and the object. The perception of the object `out there' (therefore, the knowledge of the object `out there') occurs in three sequential steps. First, the senses gather the attributes of an object via perception. If the senses are defective, the attributes that are gathered can be erroneous. For senses to operate fully, the environment (such as proper illumination, etc) should also be conducive. Once the attributes are gathered, they are fed to the mind. The sense input and the integration by the mind (volition) can go on continuously as more or better information is gathered by the senses. The second step in the process of perception involves integration of the sense input by the mind and providing a mental image of an object as the locus for the attributes and the intellect cognizing the object. At this stage, we cognize that there is an object `out there' having such and such attributes that the sense have measured. By education and training, the senses can be trained to pick up subtler differences in the attributes and feed the mind. For example, with trained eye one can pick up various shades of say, blue color. Similarly, with trained ear, one can pick up subtler differences between various ragas or tunes in the music, and thus one will be able to differentiate one raaga from the other. The third step in the cognitive process involves comparison of perceived image of the object with the attributes with the images stored in the memory. Recognition of the object based on the information in the memory occurs when the image in the mind matches with the image with their attributes in memory. Thus, recognition process forms the third step in the sequence of the knowledge. The recognition will be fuzzy if the matching is not exact. We say `This object looks like the other object but we are not sure'. If there is no matching at all, then we say `I see such an object with these attributes, but I do not know what it is'. The naming of an object and knowledge of the object go together. Thus word and the object or form (that includes all other associated attributes) together is stored as one package. Thus, we have 1) the objective knowledge is attributing knowledge, 2) attributive knowledge involves an image in the mind with its attributes and 3) a name (word) associated with it. Name is nothing but a sound or assemblage of syllables. Language, communication and transactions involving meaningful association of words (by convention) follow. Thus, sounds, syllables, words involving names ultimately are related to the objects, the world and our transactions with the world. Thus, the world is nothing but objects `out there', and from the mental cognition process, the objects `out there' are nothing but the images formed in the mind and stored in the memory along with the names associated with the objects. Thus, one can see the chain of sequences involved with the mind playing a central role in the knowledge of an object and thus the knowledge of the world. This is not mentalism commonly discussed by vijnAnavadins, but recognition that mind is playing a central role in the cognition of the world of objects. Senses do not generate the attributes but only gather the attributes from the object `out there'. Based on the attributes that they gather objects are cognized. It is important to recognize that no substantives for the objects can be established by mental cognitions. Because of the lack of cognition of the substantives, errors in the attributive cognitions can occur. This limitation of the human intellect and the limitation in the cognitive process have to be recognized at the outset. When the child sees an object for the first time, he gathers the attributes to the degree that his senses can gather. When his mother teaches the object by naming it – the name and the image are stored along with its attributes in his memory. Thus when he sees a `cow' for the first time and mother says that is a cow, the image of the cow, its attributes and the name are stored. For example, if it is a white cow and the mother says that is a cow, all the information is stored. Next time when he sees another cow, which is black and mother again says that is also a cow, he picks the common features of the two cows as generic features (jAti), taking the specific features such as white or black as the attributes of individual cows (vyashhTi). Thus generic attributive knowledge (jAti jnaanam) as well as specific attributive knowledge (vyashhTi jnAnam) are gathered and stored into the memory as learning proceeds. The synchronization of the name and form is intense that every name is associated with a form and every form is associated with a name. Thus when one hears a word `cow' at any time (even when one is not perceiving a cow at that instance) the image of the cow with the sound of its name is brought in from the memory and internal perception of the cow occurs. Thus, word and the form get associated inseparably (avinaabhAva sambandha). The object cow `out there' is associated with the thought of cow in the mind, since there is no other substantive associated with the cow other than its image in the mind is perceived by the mind. Thus, thought of the cow along with the name `cow' is the object cow outside. Here the image first and the name second occur due to their coexistence in a subsequent perceptions. On the other hand, when one hears the word `cow', along with the name the image is brought in from the memory. Here the name comes first followed by the image. Perception here is from memory. Either way, the name and form (naama and ruupa) go together for each attributive-objective knowledge. In all these, attributive knowledge there is no substantive knowledge involved. This lack of substantive is more easily perceived in the dream world than in the waking world. Nature is providing a wonderful analogy to educate a contemplative intellect the transactional realities involved in the waking and dream worlds. MAnDUkya upaniShad is, therefore, a glorious blessing of the Vedas to the mankind. (As a side note, it is recognized lately that images are stored in one side of the brain while the name or language is stored in the other side. Therefore, recognition process involves gathering information from two different sides of the brain. If these two are not synchronized, particularly when one reaches an advanced age, we have only a partial recognition. It is a common experience for many of us mature people that when we see a person we say `we know this person and I have seen him somewhere, but I cannot remember his name'. We could easily pullout the image but not the name from the other side of the memory bank). --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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